When people fall away, don’t want them to get better! People get a thrill inflicting pain! God set you free from suffering! “Suffer and die.”

Church with Jesse Lee Peterson, Sunday, June 1, 2025 

Men’s Forum first Thur, June 5th, 7pm, BOND, L.A. https://rebuildingtheman.com/events/  

||  See clips, links, and notes below. 

TIMESTAMPS 

• (0:00:00) Small talk about raising a child… Welcome 
• (0:06:30) JLP: So easy to fall away and not know it. 
• (0:17:12) “My brain burst into flames…” Possessed, depressed, evil 
• (0:25:33) BQ feedback: Does God allow you to suffer? 
• (0:40:43) BQ: People are suffering greatly 
• (1:03:08) BQ: God and suffering 
• (1:23:32) BQ: Eager to hear answer 
• (1:26:43) JLP on BQ: God set you free from suffering. 
• (1:41:32) Childbirth pain? Gemini. “Suffer and die”? 
• (1:47:30) Assignment: Quietly live with your hell. Closing 

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CHURCH NOTES 6/1/25 

Biblical Question: Does God allow you to suffer? 

Assignment: Quietly live in your hell. 

New Biblical Question: What would happen if you neither agreed nor disagreed with others? 

Men’s Forum first Thur, June 5th, 7pm, BOND, L.A. https://rebuildingtheman.com/events/  

1 Welcome 

(0:00:00) Small talk about raising a child before service 

(0:01:31) Welcome 

(0:02:00) Man tells a quick story about not listening to thoughts not to come to Church, despite plans to attend. (0:03:30) His wife speaks. 

(0:04:16) Another man’s question (0:05:12) JLP: What I realize about God… drawing others to him. 

(0:05:57) First-timer Michael from Huntington Park 

2 So easy to fall away 

(0:06:30) JLP: Rewarding, interesting … Urge you to stay with it … a little surprising how easily people fall away, with one little emotion. And they don’t know they’ve fallen away! 

(0:09:43) Goodbye, world! Don’t let anyone or anything be that important to you. 

2B Feeling good making her feel bad 

(0:09:55) Counseling story: A woman and her husband. She admitted to doing something that judgmental people think is really bad. People talk about her, and feel good making her feel bad. Never trust an angry person. Don’t want anyone more than what’s right. (0:12:24) JLP: You will see the truth is with you, and working for you. It will not let you down. (0:13:37) Human beings are evil, they’ll switch on you just like that. Don’t get mad at them for changing. That’s your enemy, been that all along. Be glad. 

(0:14:33) Feedback… 

2C Do not want anyone to be well. 

(0:15:30) JLP: Never want for anyone to get better, to come out of their hell. They have to want it. They’ll end up destroying you, if you want that for them. The less they’ll want it! They’ll see it as a weakness. Don’t judge them for not wanting it. Wish everybody well. They’ll drive you crazy. 

2D “My brain burst into flames with thoughts” 

(0:17:12) Feedback… Ryan: “Too hard… painful…” Person he has to deal with, more or less. He didn’t react this time. It was terrible. His brain burst in flames with thoughts. He let go. Very painful. Started to wonder. (0:18:42) JLP: That is perfect. The more pain you have, the sooner you’ll be free. … Even when you get a shock thinking of a past thing you’ve done, live with it. 

(0:20:15) Another man agrees… 

(0:21:19) JLP: So crazy, we’re all possessed with something else. All react the same way, and it doesn’t work. (0:22:36) JLP said on the radio show: When someone tells you they’re depressed, they’re telling you they’re evil. The experts on X reacting — When people tell you, “I’m depressed,” they’re really saying, “I’m evil.” (x.com/JLPtalk) 

(0:25:05) JLP: It’s not an easy journey. It will get easy … When you’re convinced it’s not you, you’re free. 

3 Biblical Question 

(0:25:33) Biblical Question …? (0:26:09) JLP asks people to take two mins to talk about the BQ, and then take questions from others. 

(0:26:43) The mother: Would God allow you to suffer? … I don’t associate suffering with God… Not happening to our soul, but our ego. Yes, he will allow it. 

(0:30:06) Man asks: Do you think it’s you that God’s watching suffering? She says, I can see when someone’s in their hell? 

(0:31:13) Rochelle: Does God allow you to suffer? 

(0:31:13) The man speaks on the BQ… (0:34:51) Colin: If you don’t eat or drink three days… body (0:36:09) Colin: God does let you suffer. 

(0:37:24) Ryan asks about cancer or bad circumstances vs the suffering you create in your head … 

(0:39:12) Rochelle: You’re not your body. Her mom died of cancer 

3B I do want out… 

(0:40:43) Colin: You tell me to suffer and die… He was in his head during Rochelle talking… (0:41:43) JLP: They’re suffering greatly. What do you think about it? You like your suffering? 

(0:42:28) Shayan (sp) had crazy back pain and neck pain, and kept going to a doctor friend. (0:45:55) “All thoughts are lies” is so deep. 

(0:46:26) Huntington Park guy … I think we choose to suffer — He doesn’t allow it. 

(0:48:04) Doug 2-mins, then Francisco and Nick… Doug’s torn (0:50:39) Franky: Thought about it? (0:52:51) Francisco on BQ: I think he does. 

3C Did Jesus suffer? 

(0:54:34) Did Jesus Christ suffer? … What about the suffering of the unjust? (or unjust suffering) (0:56:03) It was unjust that Christ suffered. 

(0:56:31) You look like something is on your mind. (Jesse jokes about, “Do I need to come over there?” — to a little girl playing with her pen. “Are you clipping your nails?”) The woman speaks more…  

(0:58:34) Colin: If there’s no suffering, why are we here at Church? It’s not “Is there suffering?” It’s, Does God allow you to suffer? 

(0:59:04) Nick: I like the audacity of the question… Yes. (1:00:43) Doug: How do you know? Nick: I don’t! Doug totally in his head, suffering, and then he comes out of it, and it’s gone. 

(1:02:13) Ryan: Michael brought up Job. So yes. God allowed Satan to create suffering. 

(1:02:48) JLP: The Jews don’t believe Job existed! 

3D Last BQ feedback 

(1:03:08) Derrick, my producer: A Nazi, a Flat Earther… Yes, you pray harder when you suffer. You become stronger. 

(1:06:06) Is suffering always bad? … Suffering is all about perspective, Victoria says. (1:07:20) Or they’re stupid, and they’re butthurt about it. Or they’re a P.O.W. Stems from childhood, what kind of suffering you can handle. 

(1:10:37) Hake: How do you pray hard? Is it selfish to “seek God” because you’re suffering? 

(1:12:25) Nick: If you were God, would you snap your fingers and end suffering? 

(1:14:30) Victoria on BQ (1:15:55) Hake answers… 

(1:17:23) It makes a person better to suffer, says Michael (I think). 

(1:18:16) Randy: He neither does nor doesn’t allow it: We choose. 

(1:19:10) Gal: Physically yes, spiritually, no. (1:19:34) Man answers. 

(1:21:02) Nigerian gal… (1:22:47) Vanessa: No. Christ put an end to suffering, and death. Eternal life. 

3E Eager to hear the answer 

(1:23:32) Colin is confused. Very interesting convo. (1:24:20) Ryan is convinced yes, but he’s sure he’s wrong. (1:24:39) Man (1:26:00) Asian man: kid thinks he’s drowning, but just has to put his feet down. 

4 You do not suffer 

(1:26:43) JLP on BQ: You do not suffer. God has nothing to do with suffering. He’s made you free. … 

(1:30:39) JLP: You’ll see and try it out… “I am depressed. I am lonely.” Identifying with the Devil! Stop saying it! Overcome ALL identities! Communicating, “I’m a Christian” — consciously saying it. “Fighting for God” — ownership. Doesn’t even make sense! 

(1:32:53) JLP: The Devil feels what you’re feeling. You don’t feel any pain. You’re not your body. It’s your body, not you! “I’m sick.” And you fight with cancer, and hold a press conference! 

(1:34:12) JLP: Why would God set you free from suffering, and then allow you to suffer? You’re free from suffering, but you identify with it! 

(1:35:09) Feedback: Question… JLP: You’d be aware of it. The Devil only stays in you, because you agree with it! … Eventually you’ll have a clear mind with no thoughts! 

(1:36:25) Feedback: Randy asks, Does he really depart? You’ll see people fallen away. Delusional! (1:37:15) The Devil will tell you to argue with them! 

(1:38:02) Count it all joy… Tribulations worketh patience in your life. 

James 1: 2-4 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.

(1:39:20) Jesse makes fun of the guy with pain 

(1:39:49) JLP: Don’t force yourself to understand this. (Something like that.) God doesn’t allow pain, because you’re not feeling any pain! Satan gives psychological and emotional pain. 

(1:40:58) JLP talks about noticing you’re in your head, and the pain disappears! 

4B Childbirth pain? Horoscope and Christianity. “Suffer and Die”

(1:41:32) Question from Victoria: Physical pain is separate, childbirth is painful. (1:42:43) Happy birthday. You’re a Gemini! 

(1:45:39) Rochelle: Suffer and die? Wishing them well? No! Suffer through the ego, don’t call it you, and die from it. 

5 Assignment: Quietly sit in your hell 

(1:47:30) Assignment: Have to deal with it next week. A little feedback… 

(1:49:07) JLP: Don’t judge when you’ve caught yourself in your thoughts. Nigerian gal asks about reacting to thoughts. 

(1:49:53) Poor you, Jesse tells Austin, who brought his wife and young child. He speaks on the “Suffering” BQ. JLP: Don’t argue with people. They want to believe God allows them to suffer. 

(1:51:21) Colin: Sitting and not reacting to anything is key to freedom. JLP: Stop reacting! And don’t blame anyone else that you feel that way! 

So assignment: Quietly live with your hell. 

(1:52:02) JLP: You can’t make someone overcome. Stop wanting them to overcome. JLP reiterates… 

(1:53:00) Never a reason to cry. Never. You’re not crying for them. It’s all for you, egotistical person. Makes you feel alive. Ask yourself why you’re crying. Everything about you is fake. Nothing real! 

(1:54:13) New BQ… James … Men’s Forum this Thursday! Work on yourself… Prayer 

(1:56:30) People get a thrill inflicting pain on others. Jesse reiterates again. Be aware but don’t be mad. 

REMINDERS… 

• 2025 theme/assignment: Practice being present. 
• 2024 theme: Want for nothing. 
• 2024 assignment: Don’t let the thoughts bully you. 
• 10/13/24 Daily Assignment: 24hrs: Don’t judge with words, looks, emotions, or thoughts. 
• 8/25/24 Assignment: For one week, let the only evil you think of be your own. 
• 8/25/24 try this: Never argue — with anyone. 
• 9/1/24 Assignment: Completely surrender to thoughts. Feel it. Take the pain. 
• 9/1/24 Assignment for Southern gal: For one week, don’t argue with anyone. 
• 9-8-24 and 9-15-24 assignment: Don’t trust the thought. Let it overwhelm you. 
• March 10-17, 2024 assignment: Get rid of your heroes. Trust no one. 
• May 19-26, 2024 assignment: If you feel anything, remember: It’s just a thought! No meaning. 
• Jun 2-9, 2024 assignment/discussion: Watch the different demons inside you. 
• Assignment from JLP show (Thu 6/20/24) Practice staying present. 
• Late 2023 assignment: Notice the mind repeats itself, and that it’s all about self. 
• Late 2023 assignment: Sit four minutes in your room in silence. 

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