21 Sep What’s the difference between a believer and a nonbeliever? | Church 9/21/25
No love in people! You’re not who you think! Practice staying present. Stop judging yourself. Believer, nonbeliever — no difference!
Church with Jesse Lee Peterson, Sunday, September 21, 2025
📖 PRIOR Biblical Question: What’s the difference between a believer and a nonbeliever?
📖 NEW Biblical Question / Assignment: What would happen if you never thought about yourself again?
|| See clips, links, and notes below.
TIMESTAMPS
(0:00:00) – 01 – Small talk, adjusting camera… Welcome
(0:04:20) – 02 – JLP: No love
(0:11:15) – 03 – JLP: We’re not who we think we are, not sinners
(0:18:05) – 04 – JLP: Same solutions that don’t work: Not recognizing Christ
(0:21:50) – 05 – Giving? Waiting for Christ, or living from within
(0:33:30) – 06 – Never done wrong. Fell in Hell, not love. Satan’s fear
(0:38:40) – 07 – Overcoming your illusions, ideas about life
(0:45:20) – 08 – Devil and sin in the mind.
(0:47:50) – 09 – Faking Silent Prayer? Judging self? Practice being present.
(0:55:10) – 10 – Stop judging yourself. Why don’t you stop thinking?
(1:00:25) – 11 – Married couple: She won’t obey him. Stop obeying the Devil.
(1:08:15) – 12 – Raymond, Mimi: Devil going crazy inside. “Now I feel crazy.”
(1:15:15) – 13 – In Him, there is no thinking. God’s love? Neither agree/disagree.
(1:19:50) – 14 – Young woman and father: Angry thought? Do nothing about it.
(1:26:35) – 15 – BQ: What’s the difference between a believer and a non-believer?
(1:34:35) – 16 – JLP on BQ: The same. Assignment: Never think about yourself again
(1:41:25) – 17 – Q’s: Old habits? Evil eye?
(1:45:10) – 18 – New BQ/Assignment, Showcase personalities
(1:49:10) – 19 – Charlie Kirk’s wife wants power. Curse?
(1:51:55) – 20 – Practice staying present. Closing
CLIPS
People have NO LOVE — and NO CLUE! (17-min) YouTube | Rumble
Living HELL but ‘WAiTiNG FoR CHRiST’ (12-min) YouTube | Rumble
See Recent and Archive clips on BOND YouTube, BitChute, Rumble, Odysee — BOND: Rebuilding the Man
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CHURCH NOTES 9/21/25
📖 PRIOR Biblical Question: What’s the difference between a believer and a nonbeliever?
📖 NEW Biblical Question: What would happen if you never thought about yourself again?
01 – Small talk, adjusting camera, welcome
(0:00:00) Start: Adjusting camera, small talk about Reese’s peanut butter cups, which now have PB & Jelly in them… they wanna kill us! (0:03:56) Welcome
02 – JLP: No love . We’re not who we think we are
(0:04:15) JLP reflecting on things he didn’t know. (0:05:25) No love…
(0:06:00) Example… man who helped people, set up by his grandmother to be “helpful.” They don’t appreciate it.
(0:08:59) Another example… gal from school, “Punchie…” … “I thought my friend loved me.”
(0:09:55) What you feel is hate, and you call it love.
03 – JLP: We’re not who we think we are, not sinners
(0:11:10) ANOTHER THING: We are not who we think we are. Not one iota of a bit. So crazy!
(0:12:24) Another thing: We are not sinners…
(0:13:54) Nothing you see about yourself — nothing is real. You see a mirage of the person, but not the person at all. Living in the darkness of our imagination, we live like slaves — a whole lifetime. What a sad way to live. We are free, but we live like slaves. Mindblowing.
(0:15:04) Our real self is unseen by us. You can’t see your real self. The Light has to shine. You’ve never seen your real self. Maybe when you were a little kid. Nothing about what we think we are, who we think we are — nothing is real. A dressed-up mannequin. All fake.
(0:16:06) There’s nothing on earth you should get mad about. A blind person, an angry person. Work on yourself. You will have a break through, if you want it. Once some of it falls away, you’ll want more of it. We’re free people, not sinners, not saints, not wrong, not right.
(0:16:58) LAST THING: So mindblowing, it make me wanna holler. We’ve never done anything wrong. It is impossible to do wrong. You couldn’t if you tried, if you wanted to. Most don’t wanna be free.
04 – JLP: Same solutions that don’t work. Not recognizing Christ.
(0:17:57) You will be used by other people. And you use them. Everybody has the same solutions and it doesn’t work. Read the Bible till the cows come home.
(0:19:40) People waiting on Christ to come back! Revelation already happened. Jews who didn’t recognize Christ — reminds me of that. (0:20:16) Some … amongst your friends, family — they won’t recognize the Christ in you.
(0:21:05) Work on yourself. Stay with it. The darkness hates the light. It trembles in the presence of the light.
05 – Giving? Waiting for Christ, or living from within
(0:21:41) A. Asian guy: How are we supposed to give properly? Secretly.
(0:23:27) B. She was late, everybody look at her! And she’s black! Everybody judging her?
(0:24:00) People give to the homeless or their children. Thrills.
(0:25:16) C. Franky … (0:26:29) JLP made everybody laugh talking about waiting your whole life for Christ to come. Then you’re going through the tunnel…
(0:27:05) JLP: Living from within… (0:27:32) Every decision you make is wrong. Even buying the right house. You didn’t wait for it to be added. Men and women looking at each other.
(0:28:26) JLP: Only going to get worse. Charlie Kirk. That’s lightweight compared to things to come. The Earth is the Old Testament. Hell-on-earth imposed on one another.
(0:29:54) Anybody went to a funeral and said, “They went to hell.” And everybody who died is nice. They’re lying! They lie at the funeral! Human nature is evil. Earth is not heaven, and man is not God.
(0:31:32) You don’t have to want all that… You can have perfect peace. Who wants a God who’s going to let you suffer?
(0:33:14) The love wakes you up, not the pain.
06 – Never done wrong. Fell in Hell, not love; Satan’s fear. Your ideas.
(0:33:22) Bless: Never done anything wrong. Can’t make a correct decision. It’s the spirit driving the person. JLP says: Or you think you’ve fallen in love, but you’ve fallen in Hell. (0:34:19) If it goes, it won’t be missing. They come together to have babies. Sex is not love.
(0:34:52) That guy who killed Charlie — the spirit that made a home in him. Great Mormon parents. Living in Utah, no blacks around. Let me go kill Charlie! Wasn’t his idea at all. …
Satan gives people fear — fear of coming on-stage (0:36:59) fear of forgiving Mama… People telling their “problems” — It’s not theirs… it doesn’t exist.
07 – Overcoming your illusions, ideas about life
(0:38:33) Bless answers Jesse’s question: Are you overcoming your illusions? (0:39:08) Want a real life? Get rid of your ideas and plans. You don’t know what you want!
(0:40:17) JLP story, buying first house, at 25. … (0:43:35) Bought me a 280Z, a red one. (0:43:56) If you don’t think you know what you want, it’ll happen. The Father loves you, and will make it happen.
(0:44:09) Bless on fears about both ways… Ignored the fear. (0:44:43) JLP: If you never do a “what if” again, everything will work out perfectly — don’t allow yourself to be double-minded.
08 – Devil and sin in the mind
(0:45:12) Franky on Cain & Abel… God didn’t kill Cain, but just cursed him. Same with Judas. The Devil tricks you do to wrong, and makes you miserable afterward. (0:46:57) JLP: Sin is in your mind. You can hate in your mind and be evil.
(0:47:17) JLP interrupts a guy — what’s so crazy. It’s all in the mind. It’s not real! You’re afraid not to live in your thoughts.
09 – Don’t expect Silent Prayer to work? Judging self? Practice being present.
(0:47:41) A false way to do the Silent Prayer… Can you fake it? You can fake yourself, but not the truth. (0:48:35) Repeatedly: Do you do the Silent Prayer? Yes, I try, not always. Every night. Every morning, every night? Not every morning. Why not?
Not expecting it to work? (0:51:15) … Seek first the Kingdom…: Are you expecting that to happen? You do pot? You’re on pot?
(0:52:10) Anchor Baby explains … (0:53:00) Confused about expecting? Watching the thoughts, they die away… Nothing else to do, but practice being present. The Father will take care of you. But the Devil makes you work hard. (0:53:57) Why not all days, all the time, praying always? “I judge myself.” How? “I get angry at myself…”
10 – Stop judging yourself. Why don’t you stop thinking?
(0:55:03) JLP: Stop judging yourself. You’ve created another false self saying you’re judging yourself. There is no you, no self to judge. You don’t exist! Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. You gotta have something, if you wanna be with me (JLP citing lyrics). All angry people are crazy!
(0:56:36) Young lady: Why do you judge a false self? I’ve gotten better. Allison (sp)… Why not stop judging your false self period?
(0:59:05) … What would happen if you stopped thinking? … Disobeying her husband, because she THINKS she knows better.
11 – Married. She won’t obey him. Stop obeying the Devil.
(1:00:19) Why did you get married, knowing you weren’t going to obey, that you’d be hell to pay?
(1:00:52) JLP: When you go on a date… Ask her if she’ll obey.
(1:01:51) Her husband speaks… (1:03:24) Did you know she’s white when you married her? Al, first-timer, joining us with his wife. Dropped anger? Forgave late parents. They have children. (1:04:13) Are you already turning your children against him? (She shakes her head, no. The man continues to speak…) (1:05:09) Don’t like doing it. Why not? You gotta correct the Devil. “Get behind me, Satan.”
(1:05:36) Do you love it when he corrects you in front of the children? Stop obeying the Devil. Shock the Devil…. (1:06:36) She’s doing it because she hates her mother. It’s the anger. It’s not that she lacked an example.
(1:07:29) Stop doing it. Don’t let the mind tell you you can’t. You can. Stop obeying the mind.
(1:07:50) Q from a young lady: What is real? The truth.
12 – Devil going crazy inside. “Now I feel crazy.”
(1:08:08) RAYMOND: Inner battle, all that hell in you… It’s good.
(1:09:19) MIMI: Watch the thought… “Now I feel crazy!” (1:10:42) JLP: You look crazy. “No I don’t! I rebuke that in the name of Jesus!” (1:11:10) Doug’s tried grasping the thoughts. (1:12:14) Mimi on awareness.
(1:12:54) When you transition from a child into an adult! JLP: Don’t say “transition.” It’s like when you say, “My partner…”
(1:13:39) JLP: I was brainwashed about career, buy a house at 25, so you can marry and start a family. All I knew. And if I went to jail, they weren’t coming for me. I do not put money on books.
13 – In Him, there is no thinking. God’s love? Neither agree/disagree.
(1:15:09) Rene question: Can you be aware of love? No thinking, “I got God’s love, so I’m about to share it.” If you think you have it, you don’t. It’s just a thought. In Him, there is no thinking.
(1:17:10) … They’re on a honeymoon, because they hate one another.
(1:17:44) Franky on Silent Prayer — you don’t want to meditate. Commitment? 70-percent person. 30-percent devil. 100-percent. (1:18:55) JLP: Seek first the Kingdom… Everything will be added…
14 – Communication. Young woman and father
(1:19:41) She got us on Matt Gaetz show. “All Mexicans look alike.” She speaks on: People communicate using so many words… She’s been divorced, not married.
(1:21:25) Her father joins us as well… Older, lived history. Doesn’t need to forgive, he says.
(1:24:08) She speaks again: Forgave him for not protecting her from her evil mother; but she’s angry still too, she says.
(1:25:56) JLP: next time an angry thought — any thought comes, do nothing about it.
15 – BQ… Hassan… Pot?
(1:26:26) BQ: What’s the difference between a believer and a nonbeliever? Young lady
(1:27:45) Hassan: Nothing. (1:28:30) Kevin… (1:29:16) You smoke pot? “Yes.” Why you smoke pot? (1:29:45) I use it for pain. (1:30:14) High now? “Um, yes.”
(1:30:31) Colin: Both false identities.
(1:30:56) Young Southern lady… All an act… Second thought: One trusts God, the other doesn’t. Which are you? “I wanna say, I’m a believer.” You trust God? How do you know?
(1:32:49) Another young man (the black husband) on the ego kicking
(1:33:13) Hake: The same when it comes down to it. Though the country is better off, depending on the practices, with believers.
(1:34:12) Another man.
16 – JLP on BQ: They’re the same. Assignment: Never think about yourself again
(1:34:35) JLP: They’re the same. It’s just a saying. (1:35:09) Ideas and beliefs about God don’t change anything!
(1:35:24) Charlie Kirk’s situation, he used to preach about God.
(1:36:39) JLP recommends… (1:36:54) Assignment based on the new BQ: What would happen if you never thought about yourself again?
Young lady (with the father) reacts (1:38:31) Hassan’s gf speaks… (1:39:12) For the Church, it’s for the week. For the Women’s Forum, it’s the month. (1:39:29) Southern gal: it’s hard. I assume it’d be peaceful. (1:40:18) …
(1:40:34) Colin: Every minute is a thought about myself. JLP: What a beta! “I just failed.”
17 – Q’s: Old habits? Evil eye?
(1:41:18) Shayan… Old habits that seem not to change? JLP: Stop thinking about them. Shock it by not doing it. Stop going with them.
(1:42:13) Eye contact question… Persian mom: Don’t look at a person if they’re giving you crazy eyes, if they’re giving you bad vibe, you’ll get evil eye. (1:42:58) JLP: Look at them shaking in your boots — although nowadays people are crazy.
(1:44:23) Hake: People don’t even know what they look like sometimes. They’re unaware.
18 – New BQ/Assignment, Showcase personalities
(1:45:11) Hake reiterates the new BQ, and JLP closes with great encouragement… Silent Prayer, illusion …
(1:47:00) JLP: Look around, all you see is showcase personalities…
(1:47:42) Q: How do you get rid of it?
(1:47:56) Mimi… This is the hospital
(1:48:28) JLP: Stay with it… Satan owns your mind and emotions.
19 – Charlie Kirk’s wife wants power
(1:49:01) Alexis: Do you believe me now? Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk’s wife (widow) taking over TPUSA
Alexis asks what is a curse (like with Cain of Cain & Abel). (1:50:51) JLP: Anyone with anger is cursed. Jesse whispers “I didn’t understand” what Franky meant
20 – Practice staying present. Closing
(1:51:50) JLP: Stay with this. Stay present, our theme.
REMINDERS / Assignments…
- 2025 theme/assignment: Practice being present.
- Don’t overreact to your anger this weekend (JLP show Fri 8/29/25)
- Be nothing for three days. And on the third day, see if you rise. (Fri, July 25, 2025)
- Communicate with few words. (June 29, 2025, didn’t mention)
- Don’t agree or disagree with anyone. And see what happens. (June 2025)
- Quietly live with the hell in you (May/June 2025)
- Write down all the stabs you get (May 11-18, 2025)
- Be a single-minded person, not a double-minded person. (BQ/Women’s Forum Apr 13-27, 2025)
- Don’t judge with words, looks/eyes, gestures, emotions, or thoughts. (Oct 2024)
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