01 Dec Difference between a Christian and an atheist? | Church 12/1/24
Let go of your ideas about morals. Couples: Evil women, weak men. Forgive. Standing up for yourself? Christians are atheists.
Church with Jesse Lee Peterson, Sunday, December 1, 2024
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Men’s Forum first Thursday, December 5, 2024, 7 PM at BOND in L.A. https://rebuildingtheman.com/events/
TIMESTAMPS
- (0:00:00) Pre-service small talk
- (0:01:45) Dating in your 60s?
- (0:06:23) Practical thoughts?
- (0:15:44) Q: How to get rid of morals?
- (0:20:23) JLP: Get rid of ideas: Love
- (0:26:52) Mother with a beta husband
- (0:39:35) Dealing with a nitpicking woman
- (0:48:00) No pumpkin pie!
- (0:52:08) Back to couple: Need an apology?
- (0:59:45) JLP: Stop whining! Thinking about others’ thoughts!
- (1:05:53) Forgive your mother. Who are you?
- (1:15:27) Mother: Admit your heart is evil
- (1:28:58) Jesus is already here! Spiritual, not physical
- (1:31:46) Standing up for yourself? God doesn’t care if you suffer!
- (1:37:21) Husband moved out. What’s bad about that? Work on you.
- (1:52:49) BQ: Difference between a Christian and an atheist?
CLIPS
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Church Notes 12/1/24
Biblical Question: What’s the difference between a Christian and an atheist?
ANNOUNCEMENT: Men’s Forum first Thursday, December 5, 2024, 7 PM at BOND in L.A. https://rebuildingtheman.com/events/
1 Welcome… dating in your 60s?
(0:00:00) Start
(0:01:45) Jesse questioning dating when you’re old in your 60s… (0:03:28) Imagine kissing and you have arthritis… (0:04:11) Joel…
(0:05:21) Welcome. Any questions? (0:05:46) Anybody ate pumpkin pie? Imposter sweet potato pie
2 Practical thoughts?
(0:06:23) Tired of sifting through thoughts, practical thoughts
(0:08:52) Why’s he having a problem with practical thoughts?
(0:09:44) You want pig feet… You’re too involved in thoughts, even practical thoughts. God decides the practical thoughts for you too. Don’t worry about it.
(0:11:05) I agree not identifying with thoughts.
(0:13:03) Remember you killed your wife and buried her under the house? You gotta go to jail, but something else made you commit the crime.
2B Bible passage
(0:13:50) This is relaxed, it was Thanksgiving, we’re all full, I may belch. … (0:14:34) Mary Magdalene… She was a prostitute? She was a slut.
3 How do you get rid of your morals?
(0:15:44) How do you get rid of your morality? (0:16:10) One mother doesn’t know what her morals are.
(0:16:40) A second mother: Are you happy being an immoral person? (0:17:23) …
(0:17:54) Tell him how to get rid of his morals: A third lady.
(0:18:59) Fourth gal: The theme for the year: Want for nothing. Feeling better? Yes. Free. Good meeting Thursday.
(0:19:47) Fifth lady…
3B Get rid of your ideas about morality.
(0:20:23) JLP: Get rid of morals by thinking you have them. Get rid of the thinking. Everyone thinks they have morals. Both Christian and atheist are immoral, but both think they’re right. Get rid of ideas about morality… (0:21:18) Everyone with morals is in prison.
(0:21:42) Franky: Doesn’t make sense. God made the Ten Commandments twice. I thought that’s what morality was.
(0:22:22) The Commandment is to love God… the Commandments are to keep you out of trouble. If you have real love, you’ll do right, and won’t break any commandments.
(0:23:43) You’ll notice your morals aren’t working! If you’re morals work, they’d work all the time. It’s not the morals, it’s me. Who are you?
… Cheating… it’s in the mind… (0:25:39) …Christ told us to bring every thought into captivity.
2C Thought tied to emotion
(0:26:07) If the thought is tied to an emotion, it’s not practical
3A Mother with beta husband
(0:26:52) I was thinking of you! When mothers have to deal with their kids… They get on your nerves. Mother: I’ve been watching myself! Randy’s wife.
3B Husband can’t handle her.
(0:29:51) You’re educated? Randy doesn’t seem like he can handle you!
(0:31:06) Randy, what’s wrong with you? He can get there with anger. Do it by speaking up anyway.
(0:32:00) I don’t like that word, Calm down. Ima react to that. (0:33:10) Sorry, you got a beta. He’s working on it. … not afraid to lose her.
(0:35:56) Same spirit as others in family.
(0:36:47) You gotta stop being so willful. … Why don’t you be like my dad? It’s not your fault it affects him. Judging his weakness. (0:39:14) You shouldn’t be moved by that at all. It’s in you.
3C Stand up too much? Nitpicking woman? Stay present
(0:39:35) Don’t go away, bad family. Other man: I stand up too much. Ego reasons. Confused when to say something, and when not to.
(0:41:00) A woman will nitpick. You’ll fight all day. Why fight with a nitpicking woman? … Stop fighting with the Devil?
(0:41:45) JLP: You don’t owe anyone an explanation. You don’t owe anyone an apology or anything.
(0:46:05) Ego hates God… Practice staying present. … Wasn’t prepared for Thanksgiving. Challenging. Most challenging time of the year.
3D No pumpkin pie!
(0:48:14) Mother purposely didn’t bring pumpkin pie, knowing it’s my favorite thing. It was a setup. How did you deal with it? I left the room, cracked a beer and regrouped. (0:51:28)
3E Back to couple: Need him to acknowledge he’s wrong? Control
(0:52:08) Randy… JLP used to get in trouble speaking up all the time… (0:53:13) I’m like my dad, not her dad. Idk who’s right. You be you, seek the Kingdom of God.
(0:54:00) We don’t owe any apologies? … (0:55:05) JLP: You want an apology, Randy? (0:55:51) She sometimes wants him to acknowledge he’s wrong. It’s control.
(0:57:02) Mess. Human beings are wicked. (0:58:23) … Gotta give up a life. … Spirits that made a home in you. Start catching it — (0:59:34) Got to stay present.
4 Sick people, stop whining; Thinking what others are thinking
(0:59:45) Was talking to someone and they were sick. How you doin’? Ohh-hh-hh! Lord, kill him! These are the kind of people God kills. Stop whining, stop being pitiful…
… (1:02:14) You’re thinking about what others are thinking. And then you hold a press conference! It doesn’t change.
4B She prepares a whole speech!
(1:02:58) This lady prepares a lil speech… Hyping herself up from a fight not gonna happen… Being smart… (1:04:42) They’ll call you dumb. Lady named Deandra (sp) with her mother, first-timers.
4C Forgive your mother. Who are you?
(1:05:53) Forgive your mother… Can’t forgive myself. … Taking care of grandmother. All your life you’re gonna take care of old people! (1:07:00) … You don’t exist. Who are you? …
(1:10:37) She turned you away from your father, turned you away from God. (1:12:21) Stop taking care of all those old people. Get away from Mama, and live your life. You don’t owe mother and father. They had you. Then you can help them with no guilt.
(1:13:24) You notice all the men you get involved with are weak? Just like your daddy.
(1:14:26) You’re only wrong because you hate. You’ve never done anything wrong. Which is easier to accept: That you’re a sinner, or that all your sins have been forgiven? Why do you call yourself a sinner? You’re free. Stop believing the lie. Overcome anger, everything else will work out.
4D Her mother: Admit you’re wrong for being evil
(1:15:27) Taj: Wrong … You apologized, but didn’t change. Why not? You want to change, but it’s so ingrained.
(1:17:01) When people apologize, they lie. Like when she’s crying, she’s lying. Admit you’re wrong for hating.
(1:18:39) … Have you forgiven your mother? She did the same to me that I did to my kids. … To your kids, say: … I’m wrong for being evil. … Have the same nature as God. Admit you heart is wicked.
(1:22:35) “It’s more easy for me to believe that I’m a sinner,” she says. … (1:24:59) Forget about Revelation! You’re not a sinner. You’ve never done anything wrong.
(1:26:00) Start working on you. It’s all in you. It’s not out there. You are free. Stop calling yourself a sinner. You’re identifying with evil. Vain prayers. JLP mock-prays… Praying to the Devil.
(1:28:10) You still smoke pot? Never did. Jesse jokes…
4E Jesus is already here!
(1:28:58) Jesus not coming back? Jesus is already here! Revelation. It’s done. It’s spiritual, not physical! Greater works will you do.
5 Standing up for yourself? God doesn’t care!
(1:31:46) Standing up for yourself? There’s no you to stand up for …
(1:32:53) God doesn’t care you suffer! … God and Jesus have their cafe mocha, looking at how miserable you are. Look at Deandra! Ain’t nobody care about her! She making a plan!
(1:35:16) Omeed: See what the Devil’s doing to you… all of a sudden you feel anxious, lonely, or feel fear, etc. See something else is driving you.
6 My husband moved out
(1:37:21) How you doin’? “Not well.” Meaning? “Things are not good.” She’s crying… “Andre moved out.” That’s bad? What’s bad about that? “He wants to divorce…. Two kids… They need his guidance. So do I. … I don’t know anything without him.” How did you get here? ….
Isn’t he the way to God? … No, forgiveness is… (1:40:51) Admit you’re wrong for hating. Men don’t know how to raise children. … Just as you can’t help yourself, he can’t help himself. Devil’s playing a game on both of you. Devil got you being dramatic.
If you need a plumber, you call a plumber. (1:42:41) JLP: If you need a gardener, you call a Mexican! Not a black! … You’ll get with a man, it’ll be even worse. Trust is in the Devil, not the father.
He was my god. (1:44:08) You gotta know God through God, not through another person. (1:44:35) If all men are weak, and all women are evil, all the families won’t survive. The only ones who will are those who wake up.
(1:45:33) … JLP gets dramatic: Oh, Lord, I’m smoking pot! I’m a sex addict! (Close your hears.) You never hear them say, I am evil.
(1:47:06) Work on you, where you’re wrong. … You’re not supposed to try to make a relationship work! …
That’s a nice house! (1:48:12) Armenians know how to party!
6B Keep your business to yourself. Look at you.
(1:48:53) Do not put anyone else in your business. Don’t tell family members, mama, daddy, coworker… You make a horrible mistake when you bring other people into your fights — just bringing more Devil into it. People don’t love you, don’t care about you!
(1:50:12) Don’t worry, you work on you. Let him work on himself. See what happens. You’re not supposed to miss anyone, long for them; you’ve made the person your god. Now your god is leaving.
(1:50:51) Stop crying! Nothing to cry about. Work on you. Get out of your head how bad it is. Satan told you that. It’s a wake-up call. It’s not something bad.
(1:51:31) So Satan, what were you reacting to? Kids, different areas. (1:52:01) JLP: Every human being has the same problem.
7 BQ. All-black crew.
(1:52:49) BQ… I have white people. All-black crew… (1:54:08) Derrick: Tech difficulties.
(1:55:53) JLP: Christians have pain just like the atheists. Real Christians don’t. One says they believe in God, but it’s all a lie… they have the same pain, and judge just like the atheist. No different. Christians are atheists. Still lost. You can be found by overcoming the heart, staying present with God.
(1:56:59) Time won’t give me time… (1:57:34) Ladies, work on you. Forgive your mother AND your father. Black people have it bad: Mama is god! Your mama was a MESS!
REMINDERS…
- 2024 theme: Want for nothing.
- 2024 assignment: This year, don’t let the thoughts bully you.
- 10/13/24 Daily Assignment: 24hrs: Don’t judge with words, looks, emotions, or thoughts.
- 8/25/24 Assignment: For one week, let the only evil you think of be your own.
- 8/25/24 try this: Never argue — with anyone.
- 9/1/24 Assignment: Completely surrender to thoughts. Feel it. Take the pain.
- 9/1/24 Assignment for Southern gal: For one week, don’t argue with anyone.
- 9-8-24 and 9-15-24 assignment: Don’t trust the thought. Let it overwhelm you.
- Late 2023 assignment: Notice the mind repeats itself, and that it’s all about self.
- Late 2023 assignment: Sit four minutes in your room in silence.
- March 10-17, 2024 assignment: Get rid of your heroes. Trust no one.
- May 19-26, 2024 assignment: If you feel anything, remember: It’s just a thought! No meaning.
- Jun 2-9, 2024 assignment/discussion: Watch the different demons inside you.
- Assignment from JLP show (Thu 6/20/24) Practice staying present.
- We’re not messing around this year.
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