Mothers and sons hash out their issues. Last time you had a real conversation with another person? Assignment: Don’t judge… 

Church with Jesse Lee Peterson, Sunday, October 13, 2024 

||  See clips, links, and notes below. 

UPDATE: CANCELED: NO Women’s Forum this month Oct 2024. Sorry, ladies! https://rebuildingtheman.com/events/

TIMESTAMPS

• (0:00:00) Pre-service small talk, Welcome 
• (0:01:51) Mother and son: Forgive 
• (0:08:49) Ex-wife runs up medical bills; Mother enables 43yo son 
• (0:33:11) Mother doesn’t know how to let 16yo son go 
• (0:49:49) Free will? ‘Choice’ realizing you’re wrong: Anger 
• (1:07:40) Stunned how evil you are
• (1:10:38) Working on me: Mother and son. Sister confronts JLP 
• (1:41:27) Feedback: Don’t have to go through emotions, pain 
• (1:47:14) Biblical Q: Real conversation? 
• (1:52:57) One-day Assignment: Don’t judge… New BQ; closing

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Church Notes 

Newcomers, Mothers and sons… 

Biblical Question: When was the last time you had a real conversation with another human being? 

New Biblical Question idea: Why do you criticize yourself and others? 

UPDATE: CANCELED: NO Women’s Forum this month Oct 2024. Sorry, ladies! https://rebuildingtheman.com/events/

Welcome 

(0:00:00) Start (0:01:29) Welcome

1 Mother and son: Forgive 

(0:01:51) Lots to get through… (0:02:18) First-timer Maya (sp) and her son Malachi (sp) — her first time hearing of Jesse today! The young man’s father

(0:03:40) Malachi, 16, show is cool, helpful, learning to handle parents. Forgiven? No. Why not? Gotta forgive if you want to overcome your misery. 

(0:06:20) The mother had heard of this philosophy, because of his father. She forgave her mother who’s no longer with us. I was only 21. 

(0:07:50) JLP: She couldn’t help herself. And forgive father: He didn’t know how to deal with her. Father’s still living. 

2 Ex-wife runs up medical bills using my daughters 

(0:08:49) Man: Working with my ex. Big challenge. How much info to my daughters, 11 and 9? Ex has a strong will on them. Meningitis vaccine, I was not consulted. She has complete control, stopped them from coming to California last-minute. 

(0:10:42) Why not be done with the kids? Don’t cut the baby in half? Why haven’t you? … Racked up a medical bill without consulting me. They’re on my insurance. 

(0:12:37) Why not take the kids off insurance? Ex is misusing it. Or tell the insurance not to approve any decisions without his consent. 

2a (0:13:28) I talk to men dealing with this every day. … Give her the finger, meaning: Don’t argue, don’t discuss. No more conversation. (0:14:35) **JLP: It’s abnormal to argue at all… 

Forgiving mother, father. Anger destroying human beings. 

(0:14:58) Forgiving his mother… 

2bc (0:15:59) **JLP: Anger is destroying human beings, yet people say it’s good. He forgave his father too. **Fathers love their children, and leave the mother, not the children. Take her name off the bank account. Be done. You owe her nothing. Let her live her life. You live yours. 

His mother breaks down. 

2d (0:17:33) JLP to man: Leave her alone, mama! **His mother speaks: She breaks down, “I can’t live without him in my life. Because he’s my son and I love him.” JLP: Let him go so you can live. He’s my son. I’m 43. No more son! He’s not your baby, not your son. Time to stop treating him that way. Just lost my husband a couple years ago. Want us to find you a husband? 

(0:20:47) Hard not calling him every day. Prayer… (0:21:35) Pray God set you free… Turn him into a wimp, a mama’s boy. Nothing worse. 

How God treats us; She’s like her mother 

2e (0:23:03) When you have your pain, does God mama you? No. He lets you suffer! They get their cafe mocha and donuts, and watch you on TV. Let you be mean to yourself, depressed, lonely, suicidal. He lets it happen! He gave you authority on your own life, but you’ve decided to be judgmental and lost. He helps those who decide to take control of their life. 

(0:25:34) She has her husband’s three kids too. Forgiven your mother? She’s gone. She was wonderful, did nothing wrong. JLP sings. She made me the way I am… I’m enabling him. I need to forgive her, she admits. 

(0:28:18) She’s 72… older than dirt! Let him go, you can have an amazing life. Be still… 

Son: What a beta… stop being a woman! 

(0:30:18) Her son “protecting” his mother, being a mama. You’re working for the Devil. You’re feeding her mind, causing her to be afraid. You’re not mama! Only God can protect us. 2d (0:31:49) **Your wife used to beat you? 

To the mother: You won’t feel 70, you’ll feel like a teenager. 

(0:32:37) Another man: What do you think? Gotta process things. I’m like a crock pot. 

3 Mother doesn’t know how to let wild 16yo son go 

3a (0:33:11) The first mother struggling with the same thing, letting her 16yo go… He doesn’t respect his mother or his father. He’s angry. Don’t be angry. Apologize for recreating him in your image. He hates you guys. He should be with his father. Nothing you can do. Nothing you can do. Otherwise he’ll turn on you and destroy you. 

(0:37:06) Sons and daughters turn on their mothers, they know you’re weak, they’ll destroy you because they hate you. 

Son: How do I be anger-free? He stole the car, she took his phone. 

3b (0:37:45) 16yo son: How do I be anger-free? Forgive them… How do I not let the things she does get me angry? Once you forgive her… One thing you wish she’d stop. She took my phone, b/c I took her car. I couldn’t find my car keys this morning. 

The spirit of evil is digging a hole of trouble for you. Why didn’t you say I was wrong? Because I was angry. Two devils fighting. … Call the police, put him in jail, and leave him there. 

Back away from him

3c (0:41:54) N-word (funny). He’s wearing my slippers… You need to back away from him. He’s filled with evil, with anger, and he can’t help it. Stop arguing with him, with the Devil. 

Find the right woman? 

3d (0:44:11) You feel just like she feels. Every woman you get with is just like her. How do I find the right woman? By not looking for one. Only seek what’s right. 

3e (0:45:20) It’s not your fault. It’s your parents’ fault. But now it’s your fault, because now you know. You can take control of your life. You don’t have to be miserable…. You believed your thoughts. 

Job… 

(0:48:17) Have a job? Make money. “The right way,” says mama. Don’t sell drugs or hang with guys who sell drugs. Wish them well. Part time job after school. ‘Mazin. I’m glad you wore your mama’s shoes to come. 

4 Free will? ‘Choice’ in realizing you’re wrong: Anger, Planning 

4a (0:49:49) Dominion over your life to make the choice. You can have control of your own life. No such thing as a free will. Realizing you’re angry, it’s wrong, anger is evil, angry people hate God, they’re of the Devil. The only choice is you realize you’re angry… 

(0:52:08) I didn’t know I was angry. … God forgave me, and took it away. I thought I loved my mother. I felt that emotional love. But I wanted to be free. 

(0:53:13) I’ve been taught the concept of free will all my life. … Make yourself have perfect peace. Realizing you have no choice: Just see you’re wrong for being angry, playing God. 

Fun, politics, future, arguing 

4b (0:55:22) JLP: Y’all having fun? This is better than cocaine… fentanyl… 

(0:56:14) Politics: Can’t believe people vote Kamala and not Trump. I get mad. 

(0:58:44) How can you plan for the future? It doesn’t exist. 

4c (0:59:54) There is never a reason to argue… Stop arguing, come out of your head. Stay present. 

4d (1:01:31) Are you practicing being present instead of lost in your head? **God said to pray without ceasing, rather than thinking about what has happened, what will happen… (1:02:40) Tell the 8yo daughter there is no free will. Speak up but don’t be mad. 

4-cont? 5? Be free: Never worry again. Perfect peace. But you love your thrills! 

4e (1:03:01) Each of you can leave this room a free person. … never this or that again… But you love your hell! You love being miserable! And love blaming it on someone else. You love your thrills. You don’t love heaven, you love Hell. 

There are no words to express how evil human beings are. …. Cowards. 

5 Stunned how evil you are… Wickedness… 

(1:07:40) Young lady… JLP: Human beings are evil! You’ll be stunned! 

(1:08:49) Fandom: You get worked up over your sports team. Zealot. 

(1:09:39) Everyone is two hoops and a holler… It’s not you, but something else driving you. … Satan makes you judge yourself. 

6 Working on me. Mother and son. Sister confronts 

(1:10:38) Young lady! Not that one! How you doin’? I’m working on me. 2 months ago, depressed. Pills. I don’t use them. Everyone needs to work on themselves. I cannot control anyone. Thank you. 

(1:12:29) Did you give your son the finger? He does. Son told her to come home. Don’t answer! 

(1:13:56) Addressing Malachi, the 16yo… This other young man 

Young woman gets confrontational, brother argues with sister 

(1:15:45) Another sister speaks, saying Jesse hates women, mad at people laughing. Why do you go after women? 

(1:17:19) JLP: The god below is the god of the woman. (Mike, hold on, buddy.) Adam and Eve story. She doesn’t know; she thinks it’s her. But it’s an evil spirit. The woman became the man’s god. The man has made the woman his god, trying to get something from her, love, which she doesn’t have. 

(1:19:35) He hates his mother. It’s his fault now. Mike: They deserve it. Brother-sister fight. 

Son shouts at mother… Back off, mother. Let go. Listening to the Devil 

(1:21:12) Back to the mother… Mike shouts at her. JLP encourages mother: Back off. He hates that. You’re feeding into what the Devil wants her to do. Let go. 

(1:24:18) Stop it, mother. It’s not easy. You’re playing God, and you’re really the Devil, playing God? Two Devils fighting. What’s hard: You’re listening to the Devil. You’re believing it, thinking it’s you. Setup by thoughts. 

Sister speaks on her brother, mother, controlling  

(1:27:29) The sister: She pays for everything, his photo equipment, computer, insurance. Mike wait out there. She agrees with him about control. Jesse calls their mother “Mike Jr.” Move out. Why living off mommy’s money. Then saying women are evil. But it is evil what mother is doing. What about the dad? 

(1:29:42) It’s the father’s responsibility to protect the children from the mother. But men don’t know… they become little boys, and wife or girlfriend become mama to them. The woman has to overcome evil. Hardest thing for a woman is admit she’s wrong. 

Blaming the mother: Jesse’s story. Forgive mother. 

(1:31:11) She shouldn’t help. I blame her! Jesse’s story with his son and son’s mother. 

(1:33:20) Forgave mother? She married our stepdad who was brainwashed by her. Gotta forgive. Let the son (Mike) go. He hates her because she still caters to his ego. 

Anger/emotions are evil, not necessary; no racism 

(1:34:07) Warning to Malachi’s mother: This is what’s coming. JLP: Anger and emotions are not necessary. Emotions are evil. They’re not good. At a funeral? Let the tear come and pass, and be done with it. When you cry, you’re crying for you — not the other person. 

(1:35:27) When you stop listening to emotions, you’ll be a real human being. Forgave father, step-father? Do the Silent Prayer, and overcome being a human being. 

(1:36:25) Were you right to be angry? … If I beat you. Lot of racial stuff… If a cop pulled you over, you wouldn’t be angry? No. No such thing as racism. … battle between good and evil… 

(1:39:07) Husband doesn’t kiss the wife, and she gets mad. Then he has to kiss her to feel good. Angry people are emotionally up and emotionally down. Love is consistent. It doesn’t have ups and downs. 

To mother: Stop doing for the son. 

(1:40:10) Mother thankful for Mike finding JLP. 

(1:40:59) Stop babying Mike. “We take care of each other.” NO! 

7 Feedback: Don’t have to go through emotions, pain? 

(1:41:27) First-timer man: Interesting. One Q: Isn’t it inevitable to feel the feelings? Pain is an abnormal state. You don’t have to go thought it. But you go through it because you have the thoughts. Drop the though, except practical thoughts. 

Man forgave mother

(1:43:37) Vincent from NorCal… Forgave mother 10 years ago. I was a terrible son. Mothers look at children, they see themselves. I knew intuitively I should. Father abandoned me, all of us. I was mad. After he died, I forgave him. 

Only one death: Ego 

(1:45:46) JLP: You’re none of the things you believe are you. You’re not your thoughts, etc. 

(1:46:48) Man: Social answer for spiritual problem? 

8 Biblical Q: Real conversation? 

(1:47:14) Biblical Q 

8a (1:48:36) JLP: Human beings are some of the most boring people you ever want to see. You have to fake like you’re interested, and can’t wait till the conversation is over. 

The Southern gal speaks on a suicidal friend. 

8b (1:49:58) People with degrees, the worst. JLP gym story. I had a shirt she disagreed with, and I’m black. She was talking with my white friend and me — he had another shirt. “I’m surprised at you, you’re black.” You don’t know what you’re talking about, you’re dumb. “I have a PhD!” That’s why you’re dumb. Jim Crow laws! But we lived. 

(1:52:08) Man: Counseling, and real conversations in church. 

8c (1:52:34) JLP: When you forgive, you’ll have real love. 

9 One-day Assignment: Don’t judge with… 

(1:52:57) 1-day Assignment: You won’t be able to do it. Don’t judge with words. Don’t judge with looks. Roll your eyes… Don’t judge with emotions. And don’t judge with thoughts. One-day only. Don’t judge with words, looks, emotions, body language, or thoughts. You were not created to judge. 

(1:55:22) Donyale: I was judging the family arguing! 

(1:56:10) To the first mother who spoke: Don’t judge with thoughts, emotions, body language / gestures, words, or looks… 

New BQ, Feedback: Not judging 

(1:57:51) New Biblical Question: Why do you criticize yourself? 

(1:58:20) Young lady: We really do judge a lot, and we don’t realize how common it is. Every human being who’s angry is unconscious. 

(1:59:32) Ryan: How do you stop judging people with your eyes. I stare at people with disgust. And I just noticed. Awareness changes it. 

(2:00:41) Women’s Forum (UPDATE: CANCELED)… Closing 

REMINDERS… 

• 2024 theme: Want for nothing. 
• 2024 assignment: This year, don’t let the thoughts bully you. 
• 8/25/24 Assignment: For one week, let the only evil you think of be your own. 
• 8/25/24 try this: Never argue — with anyone. 
• 9/1/24 Assignment: Completely surrender to thoughts. Feel it. Take the pain. 
• 9/1/24 Assignment for Southern gal: For one week, don’t argue with anyone. 
• 9-8-24 and 9-15-24 assignment: Don’t trust the thought. Let it overwhelm you. 
• Late 2023 assignment: Notice the mind repeats itself, and that it’s all about self. 
• Late 2023 assignment: Sit four minutes in your room in silence. 
• March 10-17, 2024 assignment: Get rid of your heroes. Trust no one. 
• May 19-26, 2024 assignment: If you feel anything, remember: It’s just a thought! No meaning. 
• Jun 2-9, 2024 assignment/discussion: Watch the different demons inside you. 
• Assignment from JLP show (Thu 6/20/24) Practice staying present. 
• We’re not messing around this year. 

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