Is Life Physical or Spiritual? | Church 7/5/26
Independence Day. Dog people. Life is spiritual. Dealing with people when angry. Don't try: Just work. Good teacher planting seeds, not propping up false gods. Do wives want romance in marriage?
Church with Jesse Lee Peterson, Sunday, July 5, 2026
📖 Biblical Question (BQ): Is life physical or spiritual?
📚 Paul said the same spirit that raised Christ from the dead dwells in you. Romans 8: 11
📖 NEW BQ: Do you love America? How do you know?
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TIMESTAMPS
(0:00:00) Small talk (off-mic). Welcome.
(0:02:50) July 4th. Dog people. 🇺🇸 🐕
(0:10:10) Mexico man: Angels? Forgave parents 🇲🇽
(0:13:00) BQ: Is life physical or spiritual? 📖
(0:27:40) JLP on BQ: Life is spiritual
(0:33:55) Angry w/ coworker. Taking job too seriously? 📌
(0:43:15) Don't try to be good. Just do your work.
(0:56:00) Feel the pain inside. Don't want to be good.
(1:08:55) Go face & forgive your mother: Christian lady 📌
(1:18:05) JLP story of a good teacher: Seeds & props 📌
(1:31:30) Travel alone. Dating & marriage: Romance?
(1:46:25) Attention, "building a relationship," companionship?
(1:50:40) Mad he won’t go with me. It’s fun! Judging him!
(2:00:00) Love complaining? "He's not married." Want him to want…?
(2:05:40) No effort. New BQ. Same Spirit in Christ, in you.
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CHURCH NOTES
📖 Biblical Question (BQ): Is life physical or spiritual?
📚 Paul said the same spirit that raised Christ from the dead dwells in you. Romans 8: 11
📖 NEW Biblical Question (BQ): Do you love America? How do you know?
👨🏾🦲 BTW (not mentioned in church, but…) Asked this week: Have you ever felt despair? (JLP Thu 7/2/26, Fri 7/3/26)
00 - Small talk, Intro
(0:00:00) Start, Intro
(0:01:26) Welcome (0:01:49) (23-sec delay from live to stream)
01 - July 4th & Dog People
(0:02:48) Y'all have a good Fourth?
(0:02:50) Lady lives in a conservative neighborhood
(0:03:22) Donyale on dogs
(0:04:24) it’s so unfair to treat a dog that way. So selfish
(0:07:22) But, again, people are getting fed up with the dog thing.
(0:07:34) Raymond: Happy 250th birthday. That movie last week: Citizen Vigilante, banned in home country of Germany. Dream of two men attacking me. Satan trying hard to keep me from praying.
(0:09:08) You guys have dogs? Oh, good. Cat lives outside right? "No way." That's amazing. Why do you have a dog? Little girl: I like dogs, they're cute and fluffy. Why don't you buy a teddy bear? That's crazy. Amazin', huh?
1B - Mexico man: Do angels exist? Change after forgiveness
(0:10:08) Any questions? Angels exist? 🇲🇽 Mexico man. "I'm trying!" lol. JLP: Yes. Watching over us. Can somebody see an angel? How do they recognize? Idk if I'd believe them, they saw the devil. Idk if it's possible. Ever seen an angel? Idk, I don't think so. First-timer, Alejandro. Lives in Mexico. "Sí." Did you forgive your mama? Yes. My life changed. How did it change? It's easier for me to think less. The rest of my mind changed, when I forgave my fathers, my parents. God speaks Spanish, too. Just like the Devil. Welcome.
02 - Biblical Question: Is life physical or spiritual?
(0:12:58) Donyale. (Are you drunk? Why you falling out of the chair? Jesse asked a little girl.) Biblical Question from the weak before: I wanted you guys to think about it a little bit. See it for yourself: Can you know God and reject him? (The prior week's biblical question — not this past week's.)
(0:13:46) This past week's BQ: Is life physical or spiritual? Woman says before I met you I lived a physical life, all about my ego, with challenges and disappointments. I'm out of breath and I don't know why. Trying to be spiritual. It's more peaceful.
(0:15:02) Young man on BQ: I think it's both. Why? Seems apparent to me, living in a material world, and the immaterial world that we can't really see but be tuned into.... A little more mysterious.
(0:15:50) Raymond on BQ
(0:16:49) Kat: Both, must be in tune with both. Only way to move forward...?
2B - This dog disrupts dating. BQ continued.
(0:18:48) JLP: I just thought of something about the dog. Good friend dates sometimes. The dog hates the girlfriends at the house. Gets in the way and gets mad. You know that dog's messed up. Thank God the dogs are not liked anymore. BACK TO BQ…
(0:19:30) Donyale on BQ: Spiritual, not physical.
(0:20:37) JLP to Donyale: If it's just spiritual and not physical, how will you move forward in life? "What do you mean move forward? Health?" Taking care of your body. Stuff like that. Staying present and doing the Silent Prayer, I'm led how to do it, says Donyale.
(0:21:40) Shayan: Only spiritual.
(0:22:30) You have a dog? Whew. Good for you, man.
(0:22:42) Man: It's both, and I'm gonna add a third one. We are a spirit, we have a soul, and we live in a body. Three things, not just two...? Example of life being soul... The mind? I don't wanna say feelings. It's our "self." I'm a little confused and gray on that. It's the part that goes to heaven. Give an example of life being spiritual.
2C - I heard God talk, when I met my second wife
(0:25:39) I've heard God talk. What did he say? And what was his voice like? (The man laughs.) When I met the woman who would become my second wife... God said, don't do this again. I heard Him say, "That's her." Was it white, black, Chinese, Mexican. It was white. Are you white? Oh, thank God it wasn't a Jewish voice! FUNNY STORY, great short/reel.
(0:26:58) Woman in the back with green: Idk on BQ: I wanna say both. Why won't you? I don't wanna answer. I don't know.
2D - JLP on BQ: Life is spiritual
(0:27:37) JLP on BQ: Life is 100-percent spiritual. If the Spirit went away from you, there would be no life. What you do in life is not spiritual. It's guided by the Spirit. Gave you the ability to get hungry, what kind of car. Life does not go forward or backward. There's nowhere to go. It's purely spiritual.
Who are you? "I'm a doctor. I have 5 children... I'm so-and-so." That's not who you are. You're pure spiritual, sons and daughters of God, a Spirit, Love. We have His life. One Life only. God's Life. No other Life exists. His Life is in everything. You're only ONE when you return to the Father. You're no longer divided, up and down, identified with what you do, what you have, where you go.
(0:29:50) We're told we gotta work hard. Some work hard to move forward.
(0:31:12) JLP: I have this friend who just eats green stuff, apples, leafy greens, stupid stuff. He lives off that stuff.
(0:32:56) JLP interrupts Shayan — that's why you can live a life without thinking. God is not about thinking.
03 - Angry w/ coworker. Nothing I try works.
(0:33:52) Shayan: If you slip into anger, can you lose your ability to work? JLP: When you're angry you're totally unconscious and can't see what you're doing.
(0:34:53) Shayan: This demon I work with, took the perfect opportunity. When the anger came, the thoughts told me two options: Speak up. Optoin 2: Don't say anything, go sit down at your desk and be angry anyway. I said something, kind of aggressive. "That's offensive," she said.
(0:36:21) I think I still hate this person. You have to use energy to not look at them, to ignore them. It's like a second job. FUNNY moment. Trying not to have a reaction, it's draining. Nothing works, everything I try.
3B - Taking job too seriously?
JLP: How do you know you take your job so seriously? "I wanna be good at it." Why? "Maybe it's the fear of failing... I'm gonna be judged for being bad at it..."
(0:37:52) JLP: If you fear failing, you're gonna make yourself fail. Shayan: How do I get over that?
(0:39:35) Kat: What does that mean that you're trying to be good at it? Trying to be efficient with your time. Racing with time...? (0:41:35) Joke about husband... Forgot the question! Why you trying to be good at it?
3C - Don't try to be good at work. Just do your work.
(0:43:13) JLP to Shayan: What if you just went to work without trying to be good or bad? I keep slipping into this ego mode where I'm trying. Idk what's causing that. Slipping into thoughts, old ways, old habits, going unconscious. Whoever taught you that don't love you. "Be good at your work"? Just do your work. Been trained, slipping into thoughts. Life is not about being anything. Just about living. Nothing to accomplish.
(0:44:52) JLP continues: Our parents hate us! 18 years screwing us up. The rest of our lives trying to overcome it. Just do your work. Makes perfect sense. Second part: How do I deal with this other coworker? This person that you hate? FUNNY. "I guess, yeah."
3D - Dealing with one's own hatred of coworker, husband
(0:45:38) He has a coworker he hates. JLP recounts to Dolores whose coworkers are thru email. I judged [maybe her husband] in my mind. My reaction was nasty.
(0:47:57) We're supposed to love everybody. Do you love your husband? "I do love him." That's why you cussed him out? My ego got in the way.
(0:49:14) Something to defend. I was embarrassed of my behavior. I do see some changes within him. That minute he snapped, I was on him. Like, "Yeah, let's do this." Can you imagine your wife saying, yeah, let's fight! Bring it on, BROTHER! I was embarrassed to say it to his face b/c I knew better.
(0:50:40) Cheyenne: I would avoid them, go the opposite way. You went all the way around rather than direct to the store. The prayer: Silent Prayer …
(0:51:58) Colin, any advice? An opportunity to do what people are saying: Watch yourself. Lawyer.... ("You don't have any friends," Jesse says to a lady who said she's waiting for a friend.) You hate your lawyer, Jesse says to Colin. I enjoy him even though he’s taking advantage of me, of the situation (to make money, say)…
(0:53:40) JLP: It's interesting the Devil makes you go off on your husband, and then he makes you feel guilty about it. (SHORT/REEL) Did you know that at the time? Immediately after, says Dolores
(0:54:23) JLP recounts to another person for feedback: "She's a bitch. Sorry, Hake. White people hate when you use that word." Eric deals with devils within himself and the other people at work. Realizing that, I'm able to ignore them like I ignore my thoughts. How’s he gonna walk by her? “Just say hello.” Keep an eye on yourself is the most important thing.
3E - JLP: She’s not responsible for how you feel. It’s all inside you. Feel the pain.
(0:55:59) JLP to add to what everyone said: Whatever you're thinking and feeling has nothing to do with her. She's not responsible for your own hate. You were like that when (or before) she met you.
Walk past her, feel the pain. Thoughts will say cuss her out, or be nice to her. Take the pain. Do nothing about the pain. Those are the spirits that made a home in you, trying to get you to overreact to something or someone.
Walk by her, shaking in your boots — she doesn’t know it. You’re dying from it. Reacting, you’re not dying from it. (0:58:17) No reaction destroys the Devil. Be still and know God.
3F - JLP: Don’t try to be good. Live. Don’t want for anything. "Givers."
(0:58:40) JLP: Never ever try to be good. We can't be good. Only God is good. Don’t try to be good or bad. Just live. Don’t want for anything. You are out of your mind to want for anything.
(1:00:00) JLP: “I'm sick of the OnlyFans, I'm going to Church to get me a woman.” God tells you, "That's it!" But that's Satan telling you that. She's cussing you out. Want for nothing, and all your needs are met naturally. He didn't tell you to put effort into anything. Love him, love neighbor — everything works out perfectly. If you try to work at something to make it work, you're crazy! What’s wrong with you?
(1:01:23) If someone leaves you why cry? When you’re crying, you’re lying. You’re sons and daughters of God.
God is not … A person who’s a “giver,” and then they bitch about it. “My mother and grandma told me I’m supposed to give!” JLP speaks on giving… (1:04:38) Give secretly. Don’t hold a press conference…
3G - Alyssa on inner pain: Devil screaming
(1:04:49) Alyssa ... If you have emotions that's from the Devil too. The light will come in and destroy the darkness. Don't run away from it.
(1:07:24) JLP: Sit in it anyway. The real you never felt pain, you'll discover. The Devil screaming at you doubt and pain
04 - Christian young lady: Go face & forgive your mother!
(1:08:55) young Lady with friend chris (1:09:10) welcome (1:09:20) (delay) Lovelyn — Christian, believes in the Bible. Forgiven mother within herself personally but didn’t go and tell her. Difficult. She won’t accept it.
(1:14:00) JLP: Chris! Why haven't you told your friend to go and forgive! She argued the same. She doesn’t remember him saying it.
(1:15:54) There's only love or hate. 100-percent says Chris. Leave her in her hell. How can you say you love God and hate your mother? If you loved her and respected your mother (which doesn't exist)... You're afraid of her. If you had forgiven her, you'd not have fear. "I don't want a reaction that would cause me to be upset." Because you don't have love. Smoke on it! Don't really smoke on it but think about it! Forgive your father for not protecting you from her. Amazin', huh! Then you will be a Christian. Can't be a Christian with an evil heart. Gotta forgive them. "I believe I have." You haven't! You're afraid to face her! Sigh / Groan. "I guess."
05 - JLP story: Good teacher, Planting seeds, Propsping up false gods
(1:18:05) JLP: I heard this amazin' story about this good teacher.
(1:19:40) We see them knocking out the girl on the basketball court. What are we supposed to learn? Good teacher took them past a farm, a farmer planting seeds… People planting seeds in one another…
(1:20:53) JLP: Who or what are you holding up as a crop? Or are you planting your seed on solid ground...? Human beings, so evil, use each other, allow themselves to be used so they can use others. Crop/Prop their lives on false props or crops. Let go of all your crops. Let them fall to pieces. Plant your seeds on solid ground.
(1:22:20) What are you propping up? Kurt: “America.” Afraid to let it go? “I love America.”
(1:23:08) Whatever you prop up it controls you. Only one God. Afraid of letting it go? Planting the wrong seeds.
(1:23:44) Raymond my own ego. JLP speaks at-length…
(1:25:40) JLP: never try to prove the truth to the devil. Feels like you’re dying but you’re dying when you have anger. You’re dead when you think at all. A dead thinker.
(1:26:40) Young man speaks with Jesse... All must be born again…
(1:27:23) JLP: And it doesn't mean going down confessing
(1:28:57) Pride is the nature of the Devil. Young man: Guy called this week saying his family died. He was lost, dependent on the identities outside him. Who am I now? (1:29:44) He said damn.
(1:30:04) JLP: He should be glad he lost everything. He could see those are his props.
(1:30:42) JLP: Plant your seeds on solid ground. In marriages, say, OK, bye, I'm sick of you. If it's not happening naturally without effort… You seek the Kingdom of God, and the Light will shine. Give them the finger if they don’t like that light.
06 - Travel alone. Romance in dating & marriage?
(1:31:29) JLP: In closing, I say to the men, nobody's responsible for your spiritual life but you. You can't take anyone with you. And to the ladies, the same. Your husband or boyfriend can't save you. Travel this journey by yourself. Lonely, scared, weak, crying sometimes. Can't take "friends." Gotta travel by yourself. Or don't go. Just stay in your misery, hell, thrills.
(1:32:27) Kat's husband: Should men make an effort in their marriages for romance and things like that? No! Oh, OK, says Anthony.
(1:33:46) Kat: Let's say your scenario's correct. What's that got to do with romance? What is romance? Like making a baby?
(1:35:29) "This is a debate we have in our house." I can tell! Are you every woman? Is it all in you? (Song lyrics) Romance: Go out, have new experiences? Why not do it yourself?
(1:37:01) You're bitching about him b/c after 20 years of marriage, you still want romance. What do you want? (1:37:50) Again: What do you want? "I don't know..." — Yes you do! Pause. Idk how to answer.
(1:38:46) ... You want to kill him. "I don't think I'm making sense." You're on him, you want romance? What's a new experience?
6B - The solution: Devil lying to you
(1:40:57) JLP: You have a dog?!! A natural organic time we got to stay at a hotel. Stop working. And raise your children. You stay home and raise the children. I’m working from home. Major change in you for the good. Working on my own inward struggles, trying to live without needing anything.
(1:42:17) I think every woman wants that... but trying not to put pressure… JLP: Die from doing anything … Devil is lying to you saying you want romance.
(1:43:06) He's just being obnoxious by bringing it up. JLP: Stay with it. The Devil's telling you that. Feel the pain. You'll have all the romance from God. It's all fake. I know it's ego driven. You feel good, then feel bad. What do you mean by new experience?
(1:44:49) I was very upset 6 months when he was first listening to you. Make sure he pays the rent, feeds you… Puts gas in your car…
6C - Attention, "Building a relationship," Companionship for the heck of it?
(1:46:23) Another lady Lovelyn (spelling?) Prescription glasses. She's trying to build a relationship. Respect is important for men. Attention is important for women. (1:47:46) She's originally from Camaroon. She continues.
(1:48:10) That's not fair to get married only if you can have kids? I don't deserve companionship or marriage? “To have companionship.” Do you need companionship? For the heck of it, I guess? Who are you? If you can huh, you can hear!
(1:49:55) JLP: Christ said you doesn't know you! You haven't gone to your mama and forgiven! You may not think you have hate but it's still hate! You're not gonna know you're a child of God until you operate out of love. "I will look into that."
6D - Mad he won’t go with me. It’s fun! Judging him!
(1:50:40) Lady in green, Randy's wife: idk how to answer that. Yes you do! Do you want companionship? No. New experiences? Skydiving. I needed my husband with me before. I married him for a reason — to use him. Like a blanket, huh? What changed your mind? I was waiting too long, so I started doing things on my own. (1:51:40) Do you agree with her?
(1:52:22) JLP: Who gives you the right to judge him? Why do you judge him? "It's easy." You’re not gonna have as much fun, or the same kind of fun. “Very true… Like I want him there, but I don’t.” He didn’t promise to go to all your crazy ideas!
(1:54:25) Judging sometimes, not always? JLP: Sometimes is always…
(1:54:44) Yes, Randy. Poor Randy. "Poor Randy?" He gotta deal with his own hell and all y'all's. I can't let you get away with this! And she knows better, too! (About Kat.)
6E - I have all these wants. Stop trying to please.
(1:55:19) Are you gonna treat your husband that way? Another young lady. I'm seeing already that I have all these wants now....
(1:56:33) JLP: Don't you hate when women look at their husbands trying to get a response, get him to agree or whatever…
(1:57:47) Love my enemy? I don't think I have an enemy? Oh, you have an enemy! Satan. And enemies inside other people!
(1:58:25) Have you stopped trying to please? Why not? New props to hold up…
6F - They love complaining? "That's why he's not married."
(2:00:00) Daniel: They don’t want romance — they love complaining that they don’t get romance. It’s all ego. (2:00:45) That's why he's not married! They wanna be worshipped. (2:01:43) Randy: She told me to say yes.
(2:03:26) I'm gonna get rid of you! Cheyenne: Wow, very interesting!
(2:03:51) Donyale, are you like that too? I’m not your average bird. “Bird?” I never had to ask a guy to romance me. “OoOooOoh.” FUNNY moment. She says she’s going to 100th floor. My marriage the best it’s ever been — it naturally flows.
07 - No effort in God's way. New BQ. Same Spirit in Christ, in you.
(2:05:38) Mexican man: Any time for effort? No, except with practical things... You don't live by that. No effort in anything. God's way is easy. His burdens are light. In Him, you just live.
(2:06:43) New BQ… Do you love America? How do you know?
(2:07:31) JLP: Paul said the same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead dwells in you. (which is in Romans 8: 11)
(2:09:23) End
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📖 Biblical Question (BQ): Is life physical or spiritual?
👨🏾🦲 Asked this week: Have you ever felt despair? (JLP Thu 7/2/26, Fri 7/3/26)
📚 Paul said the same spirit that raised Christ from the dead dwells in you. Romans 8:11
📖 NEW Biblical Question (BQ): Do you love America? How do you know?
REMINDERS / Assignments…
- 2026 Theme: Endurance (since Church 1/4/26)
- 2026 Assignment: Be a doormat. (since Church 12/28/25)
- Rise to the 3rd, 30th, 50th or 100th floor, out of the basement (Church 2/15/26)
- Be a thought watcher. (JLP Mon 4-20-26)
- Resist anger. (Church 3/29/26, Church 4/5/26)
- Don't think about you at all this week. (Church 3/8/26)
- Keep your mind where your body is, for one week. (After Church 3/1/26)
- Next time you cry, check yourself. (Church 3/1/26)
- Watch the Devil in you. (Church 2/1/26)
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