Are You a Messenger of Love or of Hate? | Church 4/19/26
Jason speaks: Want for nothing. BQ: Are you a messenger of love or of hate? Are you a sinner? Jesus said your sins are forgiven.
Church with Jesse Lee Peterson, Sunday, April 19, 2026
📖 Biblical Question: Are you a messenger of love or of hate?
📖 NEW BQ: Do you have humility? What is it?
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TIMESTAMPS
(0:00:00) - 00 - Small talk off-mic; Welcome
(0:01:47) - 01 - GUEST, Jason: Family visit got me in my imagination
(0:12:12) - 1B - Jason: Running aware, not thinking; Walmart, trying too hard
(0:19:10) - 1C - Feedback: The Lord is my Shepherd; Wanting from thoughts
(0:23:26) - 1D - Jason's story: "I'm black and I'm proud." I thought Jesse was crazy
(0:31:19) - 1E - Jason: No sons? Story: Backing out of a partnership
(0:35:03) - 1F - You made all girls? Thanks, Jason! Being perfect…
(0:37:58) - 02 - BQ: Messenger of love or hate? A Canadian and his mother
(0:43:41) - 2B - You said you're sorry I THOUGHT that. On her mother: Smile and nod
(0:48:36) - 2C - Do you believe in God? Hot seat … BQ feedback…
(0:51:04) - 03 - Messenger of hate after champagne…
(0:54:56) - 3B - Go through hell: Paradise on the other side
(0:57:27) - 04 - Man wants his father to love him back
(1:01:16) - 4B - You don't need anyone to love you. You can't help anyone.
(1:04:34) - 4C - 9yo son speaks
(1:05:56) - 05 - BQ: Raymond, others: "Boring." One more curse word?
(1:11:09) - 06 - Q: Are you a sinner? Hassan on BQ…
(1:17:24) - 6B - Indoctrinated to believe I'm a sinner…
(1:22:40) - 6C - No, I'm tired of being a sinner.
(1:27:16) - 6D - What does God say about you being a sinner?
(1:29:33) - 6E - JLP: Told all your life you're a sinner. Raymond
(1:33:51) - 07 - Bible verses: Jesus said your sins are forgiven
(1:34:48) - 7B - JLP: You're not a sinner. God is love.
(1:42:52) - 7C - Free pass? You call suffering "fun." Fascinated with misery
(1:46:42) - 7D - Ye's concert, Jesus at the wedding: Fun as a whole person…
(1:48:29) - 7E - …See a person by loving the person. Nice people are nasty.
(1:56:23) - 08 - Hassan… Did Christ ever call us sinners?
(2:03:21) - 8B - If you were never told you were a sinner, nothing to work on
(2:04:56) - 09 - Closing… New BQ: Have humility? What is it?
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CHURCH NOTES 4/19/26
📖 Biblical Question: Are you a messenger of love or of hate?
📖 NEW Biblical Question: Do you have humility? What is it?
00 - Small talk off-mic; Welcome
(0:00:00) Start (0:01:18) Intro (0:01:34) Welcome
01 - Guest: Jason: Wanting for nothing
(0:01:47) - Guest intro: Jason (0:02:28) Jason speaks
(0:02:53) - Pull up Psalm 23… (0:03:46) recounting visiting family for Thanksgiving, seeing extravagant houses, comfort food from aunties… (0:05:09) Been away from family about 20 years — everyone happy to see me, so to speak … got full of myself, my ego … got into imagining having my own home like my cousin, not appreciating my humble abode in CA (0:06:49) Didn’t have a plan to move to Houston area, TX, but got into my thoughts, didn’t appreciate what I had. (0:07:39) Wanting for nothing, God has provided…
(0:07:54) - Bible, James 1: 2-4 … (0:09:25) That you may be perfect and entire(?) meaning whole, wanting nothing… (0:10:11) If the Lord is your shepherd, you’ll want nothing. Observe your thoughts, and don’t go with your thoughts. Want a promotion?
1B - Jason: Running aware, not thinking; Not trying too hard
(0:12:12) - Running exercise, aware of my thoughts, breathing, environment, not putting thought into how long I have left — I did my best running.
(0:15:33) - Walmart self checkout, not for free stuff (as in stealing), but it’s faster. (0:16:17) Associate lightly tapped it, after I was pressing, pressing, pressing — trying too hard. (0:17:34) Reads James again — let patience have its perfect work, that you may be entire, not lacking anything …
1C - Feedback: The Lord is my Shepherd; Wanting from thoughts
(0:19:10) - Raymond (0:20:48) Alex (0:21:02) Jason’s mother would cite Psalm 23 a lot … “The Lord is my shepherd” — if you stay conscious, forgive …
(0:21:45) - Andrew, when I get something I didn’t realize I wanted versus something I thought I wanted, in which I’m not satisfied… When it comes from thoughts, it’s never satisfied…
1D - Jason's story: "I'm black and I'm proud." I thought Jesse was crazy
(0:23:26) - Donyale question… first introduction to Jesse’s message: I’m black and I’m proud. People are against me. I thought he was crazy. (0:24:35) I was very pissed (over an ex and his daughter…) Jesse was speaking with a black power personality cracking jokes. Jesse handled it so smoothly. I saw something godly in that. I would lash out in my own life. Covid happened. Drove from San Diego for Men’s Forum
(0:27:26) - What would you say to someone in their 20s… Jason: I have 3 daughters … set an example….
(0:29:25) - Southern gal aka “Miss Alabama” on wants or emotions … We’re getting happiness, emotion, ego… Working toward the promotion, but with nothing attached to it to be a “successful person” or whatever. Do your best but without anguish, pain, jealousy, any emotion toward it.
1E - Jason: No sons? Story: Backing out of a partnership
(0:31:19) - Jesse: Do you have sons? What a beta.
(0:31:42) - One more story — working with a person on a goal, who was always late! Never on time for Zoom meeting. They’d joke, I was waiting on you! Always an excuse. A booksmart person. (0:33:05) - I’m not gonna help out anymore. Zoom calls was “joking around” with insults. When I backed out, I saw the spirit was all wrong — I knew it wasn’t going to work out.
1F - You made all girls? Thanks, Jason! Being perfect
(0:35:03) - Who makes all girls? That doesn’t make sense? Alex made 4 girls
(0:35:47) - Everybody wanna hear from Mimi next week…
(0:36:06) - Being perfect, Bless’s call on JLP this week JLP Fri 4-17-26 -- (1: 30: 50) 📞 Bless
02 - BQ: Messenger of love or hate? A Canadian and his mother
(0:37:58) - Michael from Canada on BQ, first-timer … forgiving his mother (0:39:17) “I forgive you.” She didn’t know what I was saying. She said, I don’t wanna talk to Jesse at all. JLP: I’m glad I told on you! His father died when he was 12. I’m no better than he is.
(0:40:20) - Pam from Canada, his mother: BQ, a deep question. As a former gov’t employee, my message is pragmatism or common sense? That’s not the question. “I don’t even know what pragmatism is.” (0:41:38) - I don’t believe in hate, for myself… Don’t have hate? How does your son see you? How do you see yourself?
2B - You said you're sorry I THOUGHT that. On her mother: "I smile and nod"
(0:43:41) - He says she didn’t apologize. (0:44:30) - You said you’re sorry that I THOUGHT that. (0:45:28) - Mother still on earth. “Poor you!” Forgiven her mentally, but not verbally. Why not? Idk! You know you’re just like her, right? Have you noticed? “I have traits.” How will you overcome it if you don’t forgive her.
(0:47:17) - “I smile and nod.” Your impression of your son? “Wonderful young man.” What’s wonderful about him? (0:47:53) - He’s 21. What are you gonna do when he leaves? Text.
2C - Do you believe in God? Hot seat … BQ feedback…
(0:48:36) - Just gonna take it all in. Do you believe in God? People in Canada don’t believe in God, right? “Somewhat true.” (0:49:53) Hot seat? Wanna come up here? “Noo! Noo, noo, thank you!” You’ll be happier here. “I don’t think so!”
(0:50:30) - Donyale: I’m a messenger of love. Decision to drop anger, God’s love
03 - Messenger of hate after champagne…
(0:51:04) - Lady home by herself this week. Messenger of love, because I keep to myself. But after a little champagne with family, I was a messenger of hate, judging in a “joking” way, then judging myself on the way home. Trying to get to the 30th — second floor — back to the basement! Up all night.
(0:52:35) - Alexis: messenger of hate … (0:53:49) - Eric on BQ …
3B - Go through hell: Paradise on the other side
(0:54:56) - Miss Alabama, right now, definitely hate … Devil has her questioning everything … (0:56:31) JLP: Go through hell: Paradise on the other side
04 - Man wants his father to love him back
(0:57:27) - Man on forgiving father who gives hate back to him. Why do you need father to love you back? “It feels good…” Don’t need his love? Intimidation factor, heartbreaking when he doesn’t love me back. He can see I’m like that with my own son. (1:00:25) - 40, at home with father, dealing with him every day, in the same household.
4B - You don't need anyone to love you. You can't help anyone.
(1:01:16) - Young man doesn’t need his mother to love him back. Young man says: You don’t need anyone to love you. Just God. “And my son hopefully.”
(1:02:38) - Let the thoughts be. You don’t need anything from the world. (1:04:18) - You can’t plant a seed. You’re giving your seed to th Devil.
4C - 9yo speaks
(1:04:34) - Young man is 9, “Rider” (spelling?) Angry? Sometimes.
05 - BQ: Raymond, others: "Cowardice… Hater… Boring…" One more curse word?
(1:05:56) - Raymond: “Cowardice.”
(1:06:43) - Young lady: “Hater.” If you’re not gossiping, I’m boring as hell right now. Who am I if I don’t have an opinion, don’t care about anything. Who wants to hang out with me if I’m boring? (1:08:13) - Are you bored by yourself? … (1:08:56) What should I eat? Nothing, because you’re not even hungry, girl! Stay with it. Idk why… I can almost see through all my BS now. Idk what to do. (1:09:44) - Do you want one more curse word?
(1:10:10) - Daniel: Hate. Not perfect yet. Why not?
06 - Q: Are you a sinner? Hassan on BQ…
(1:11:09) - Amazing Women’s Forum, you missed it, Donyale. “I know.”
(1:12:04) - Are you a sinner? Yes.
(1:12:57) - Hassan: There’s no me.
(1:13:59) - Trump face on card, “blaspheme!” (1:15:08) - Hassan imitated Jesse, and was a messenger of Hate with it. Ye shoes (1:15:51) …
(1:16:07) - Miss Alabama: Sinner?
6B - Indoctrinated to believe I'm a sinner…
(1:17:24) - Donyale: Are you a sinner? “Indoctrinated”
(1:19:23) - The Canadian mother: Probably a sinner. Son: No. Why no? They’ve all been forgiven.
(1:20:03) - Not a sinner, says one of the guys
(1:20:40) - Doug: Not sure
(1:21:40) - Alexis: No… I don’t think about that.
6C - No, I'm tired of being a sinner.
(1:22:40) - Nick: I have to say I’m not. I’m kinda sick of being a sinner, training of “accountability.” Like Donyale said. All I have are judgments.
(1:23:32) - Man: I woulda said yes. No idea though.
(1:24:05) - Alex. (1:24:16) - Jason, I thought I’d done talking already.
(1:24:51) - Mimi - Michael from Canada was right (1:25:23) JLP: You gonna stop complaining? Forgave mother? “I have.”
6D - What does God say about you being a sinner?
(1:27:16) - I’m still a sinner, I still have anger. What does God say about you being a sinner? Idk…
(1:27:50) - Yes, I am a sinner, says a man: I let evil thoughts dictate my actions. God says, Relax. What does a father say to his son? Did you learn?
(1:28:36) - Franky
(1:28:51) - Hake: judgment of self and others
6E - JLP: Told all your life you're a sinner. Raymond
(1:29:33) - JLP: It’s so sad told all your life you’re sinners… from childhood, dark misery
(1:31:57) - Raymond, Yes I am a sinner, thoughts of anger… (1:32:22) - All who sin are slaves … He doesn’t want me to be a slave. Idk if I deserve to be free.
07 - Bible verses: Jesus said your sins are forgiven
(1:33:51) - Hake reads:
Matthew 9: 2 - Jesus to the paralyzed man — Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
Luke 7: 48 - Jesus to the “sinful woman” — And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
Matthew 26: 28 - blood poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins — For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
7B - JLP: You're not a sinner. God is love. Slave of the Devil
(1:34:48) - JLP: You’re not a sinner (1:36:17) - The Devil isn’t even judging you, there’s no you to judge … (1:37:14) - To be perfect is to have perfect love. God is love. Love conquers all. You are as well. You’re not saying what God says about you. … (1:38:35) - Walk in love, walk in the light. Nothing in you that’s of the Devil. You gotta forgive, so the Devil can stop controlling your mind.
(1:39:06) - Forgive them, for they know not what they do. They don’t know it. They can’t see.
(1:39:58) - You’re not sinners if you have forgiven. That nature of the Devil in you is not you — the sex, drugs, drunk stuff… Slave to the Devil, he makes you do whatever he wants.
(1:42:14) - You’ve done nothing wrong your whole life. It was evil in you doing it. All thoughts are all lies, all the time, about anything.
7C - Free pass? You call suffering "fun." Fascinated with misery
(1:42:52) - The young lady… It feels like a free pass: What’s the incentive to stay good? (1:43:49) - JLP: When I had earthly fun, “I don’t wanna be no Christian.”
(1:44:42) - I got so drunk, I couldn’t even drive. Hangover… That’s misery. Woe unto the man who calls evil good. (1:45:25) - Devil says you’re not gonna have fun if you give up drinking… The Devil tells you your life will be “boring.” You’ll have fun sitting with the dummies talking about nothing.
(1:46:05) - If you wanna know fun, stop being fascinated with your misery
7D - Ye's concert, Jesus at the wedding: Fun as a whole person
(1:46:42) - JLP on Ye’s concert, FUN. Jesus went to the wedding, and had fun. He may have had a lil wine, since he made the wine. When you’re ONE, you’ll no longer be corrupted by your environment.
7E - Nothing required. Thoughts lie. See a person by loving the person.
(1:48:29) - Dolores on surrendering to Satan vs to God… When I’m most comfortable in my thoughts
(1:49:47) - JLP: When you feel like you’re on top of the mountain, you’re in the valley. (1:50:18) - Interesting: God only asks us to forgive. Everything is laid out. Nothing else is required. … Dolores speaks more….
(1:51:56) - It’s hell in the valley, but it’s just a thought — and that thought is lying to you about you, your fellow man, your neighbor. I don’t see Donyale… the only way I can see her is to love her.
(1:53:51) - Nice people are nasty people!
(1:55:39) - You’re not a sinner nor saint. Dolores: Harder for women who grew up without a father?
08 - Hassan… Did Christ ever call us sinners?
(1:56:23) - Hassan…
(2:00:00) - JLP… Did Christ ever call us sinners?
(2:01:44) - Mimi: Comedian … God is dope … talking with the young lady about fun …
(2:03:07) - Alexis, say what’s on your mind.
8B - If you were never told you were a sinner, nothing to work on
(2:03:21) - The lady with an accent: If you never told you were a sinner there’d be nothing to work on. You’ve been lied-to.
09 - Closing… New BQ: Have humility? What is it?
(2:04:56) - Canadian mother, Pam — lots to think about. Forgive your mama.
(2:05:43) Talk
(2:06:22) New BQ
📖 NEW Biblical Question: Do you have humility? What is it?
(2:07:26) Closing
REMINDERS / Assignments…
- 2026 Theme: Endurance (since Church 1/4/26)
- 2026 Assignment: Be a doormat. (since Church 12/28/25)
- Rise to the 3rd, 30th, 50th or 100th floor, out of the basement (Church 2/15/26)
- Resist anger. (Church 3/29/26, Church 4/5/26)
- Don't think about you at all this week. (Church 3/8/26)
- Keep your mind where your body is, for one week. (After Church 3/1/26)
- Next time you cry, check yourself. (Church 3/1/26)
- Watch the Devil in you. (Church 2/1/26)
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