29 Dec Do you love your misery? | Church 12/29/24
How do you know you’re submitting? Dealing with a tormenting mother. Working on the body, neglecting the spirit: A couple loves their misery/hell!
Church with Jesse Lee Peterson, Sunday, December 29, 2024
|| See clips, links, and notes below.
ANNOUNCEMENT: Men’s Forum first Thursday, Jan 2, 2025, 7 PM at BOND in L.A. https://rebuildingtheman.com/events/
TIMESTAMPS
- (0:00:00) Still debating 11yo on Santa; Welcome
- (0:09:16) Raymond: Silent Prayer?
- (0:11:36) Submitting vs giving up?
- (0:16:35) Dealing with tormentors?
- (0:25:27) Mother harassing me…
- (0:34:03) Santa side-note. Move further away from Mama?
- (0:43:42) JLP: It’s inside you… Evil neighbor story…
- (0:49:15) Story: My stalker … Roseanne podcast
- (0:55:42) Can objects be evil? The Shining hotel story…
- (1:01:47) Anger from father? Memories… Not mother?
- (1:12:50) Identity as a bodybuilder. Conflict in relationship
- (2:03:33) JLP: You’ve been lied to: You love your misery
- (2:15:30) Closing, announcements
CLIPS
You’ve been lied to: You worship your misery (14-min) YouTube | Rumble
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Church Notes
Theme from 2024: Want for nothing
Biblical Question: Do you love your male and female problems?
New Biblical Question: Do you have character? What is it?
Assignment for the coming year: Practice being present.
ANNOUNCEMENT: Men’s Forum first Thursday of the month, Jan 2, 2025, 7 PM at BOND in L.A. https://rebuildingtheman.com/events/
0 Welcome / Santa debate continued
(0:00:00) Start (0:02:07) Give him a mic…
(0:03:18) Welcome to Church! (0:03:32) More debating with the 11yo … (0:04:46) When did you start speaking up all of a sudden? … (0:07:19) Get ready for White History…. Whiteness? Mess!
1 Reflect … Silent Prayer
(0:07:56) Merry Christmas! Reflect on the amazing year…
(0:08:34) First-timer: Oscar’s bro brought him. (0:09:05) David found JLP via YouTube.
1A (0:09:16) Any Q’s? Raymond: Silent Prayer (0:10:15) JLP: Be still… Sleep if you stay with it.
1B Lipstick on a pig: Submitting vs giving up?
1B (0:11:36) I know I’m psycho. (0:12:54) Q: How do you know you’re truly submitting? Versus just giving up in defeat? (0:13:33) Raymond: Ego. (0:14:15) Young lady: No feelings to surrendering … (0:14:43) JLP… What do you mean by giving up?
(0:15:25) 1b JLP: When you can take all of your pain, grief, loneliness, sadness, depression… then you’ve given up, you’ve submitted — when you’ve endured all that. Most can’t endure three minutes of being alone.
1C Dealing with tormentors? Reputation? Mother harassing me
(0:16:35) A man Cheyenne (sp) asks about others tormenting you. (0:17:54) JLP: They’re doing it to themselves. (0:19:21) Yesterday, a thought: This person won’t stop; go have fun. 1C JLP: If it’s a girlfriend breaking your car windows, call the police. (0:20:02) But don’t get angry. Other than that, do nothing.
(0:20:27) Another man: What if it’s preventing me from doing things…? A work colleague impacting your work/life, ruining my reputation…? (0:22:44) Unless it’s a stalker who will throw hot grits on you…
(0:23:16) A third man… Back to the second man… (0:24:07) Reputation, or someone leaving trash at door…
1D It’s my mom…
(0:25:27) Back to Cheyenne: What if it’s your mother who won’t leave you alone? (0:27:08) You live close to your mother? “We’ll help you get a house… cosign…” (0:28:01) JLP: Stay away from me, or I’ll have you arrested. Cheyenne: I feel like an ex-boyfriend or something… She’s trying to make you her husband.
(0:29:42) … Why were you at the party? What a beta. A Christmas party with mama? (0:30:33) Fear. JLP: All human beings are driven by fear. (0:31:13) Mother came behind and covered my eyes. Why didn’t you back-hand? Not violence. Self-defense only. (0:31:46) She does that with all my brothers. JLP: Did you call her the B-word?
(0:32:40) JLP: Angry, not free, can’t stand up to mama. Born to be free. The moment I started to resemble my father…
1E Santa side-note. Free yourself from mama
(0:34:03) JLP: What a mess! Santa truth…
(0:34:32) The third man speaks again… Playing victim. (0:35:30) … Stand up to mama, then you can deal with the world.
(0:36:00) Stalker… (0:36:26) Franky: Move away. (0:37:16) Messican? Allahu Akbar guy.
(0:38:05) Feedback on what Franky said? (0:38:58) More… (0:39:42) One man’s brother (0:42:29) Rochelle… don’t necessarily move.
1F Face her…
(0:43:42) JLP: I totally agree. You gotta face her. Everything that’s wrong is inside you. You can live right next to her, and still be free.
(0:45:12) JLP on dealing with a nasty old black woman neighbor…
(0:47:02) Never a reason for anger… Anger separates you from God. People are evil.
(0:47:26) Man: I talked with her before, but it was too soft. (0:48:20) All mothers are like that. It’s not the culture. It’s the evil spirit. If you’re like the father, you have no chance! Forgive her, she can’t help it. You don’t have to move. Unless you want to. Not out of frustration…
2 My stalker
(0:49:15) I had a stalker. Gal says she was in love with you. Lord sent me to tell you you’re gonna be my husband.
(0:49:52) JLP retells the story…
(0:51:35) She hid behind cars… I have a gun now, you can’t do this! … Alley
(0:52:22) She said, I love you! I said, I hate you! I haven’t seen her since. That’s all it took? She was a nutcase. It’s weird having a stalker.
(0:52:52) Colin: My ex-wife, constantly trying to hurt me. Stay away from anger.
(0:53:32) A lot of women say the Lord told me…
(0:53:50) Roseanne interview feedback…
JLP Roseanne interviews, etc. (on Rumble) https://rumble.com/playlists/AeJUUY5-Oao
“Ain’t Nobody Good” with Jesse Lee Peterson | The Roseanne Barr Podcast 79 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VXfS6AqHaw
(0:55:22) Matteuse (sp)
3 Can objects be evil? The Shining…
(0:55:42) Omeed purging a lot of his stuff… Tiki dolls, etc., from other countries. Can a thing be evil?
(0:57:08) JLP visited The Shining hotel… “Help! Help!” (0:59:17) I’m not staying in this room… The front desk tells me ghost things live, riding bikes. I slept with all the lights on… (1:00:52) The noise was so wicked, you could feel it in your body. Do not go to The Shining hotel. It’s real. Jack Nicholson was so good in that movie. Voodoo doll…
4 Anger from father? Not mother?
(1:01:47) First-timer Jackie (sp) joins us with her mom. She recovered from imposing her will on me…
I have anger, but don’t feel like it’s from her. Partially from my dad. (1:02:57) Why the father? They had me at 20, I had to grow up with them.
Forgiven father (1:03:49) Yes, but I get mad about something else — a memory will come, and I’ll get pissed off… JLP: Memories …
(1:05:42) Was she perfect? No. She was looking for love…
(1:06:54) Devil telling you, Oh, don’t forgive her. Is there a reason for the emphasis on the mother? (1:07:28) JLP: Hell comes through the woman… Father that way too because of his mother… I cannot stand my grandma! Forgive your mother and your father. You have to admit you’re wrong for judging…
Who are you to judge him? (1:09:16) I ask myself the same thing…
(1:10:32) Are you married? No. You’d be hell to pay! Forgive your parents, so you can be forgiven!
(1:11:12) You wanna be you, not like your mama! You’re already like her!
(1:12:00) Any Q’s? Man agrees about setting boundaries… And reputation… Let their crazy show…
5 Physically training, but couple in conflict
(1:12:50) Q… How have you changed this year? Man: I haven’t done the Silent Prayer. Why not? No valid reason. I just haven’t put it as a priority. How will you overcome hell? I work on myself physically, training, working out
(1:15:50) Working out is causing your stress to go away?
(1:17:47) Do you believe you are your body? …
5B Woman: How do you deal with the Hell in him?
(1:19:30) Is he hard to live with? Lady: He has his times. He’s very regimented.
(1:20:20) How do you deal with the hell in him? … Don’t talk in circles! (1:21:01) I do the Silent Prayer, not as often as I should. (1:21:41) Do you tell him? (1:22:28) He’ll raise his voice, or walk away, and shut down from the situation. He doesn’t want to deal with the hell in him? I wish he’d work on it.
5C Walking away in conflict? Disrespect?
(1:22:54) Why don’t you work on your spirit, not just the body? I don’t know how. (1:23:19) JLP: How is she supposed to deal with the hell in you and herself… I don’t want to start yelling at obscenities with each other. It brings us down even more. I walk away.
(1:24:59) Give me an example. If I get loud, he gets loud.
(1:25:29) If you don’t help her, but just walk away in anger… If her tone rises, I automatically read that as disrespect. (1:27:09) I care too much…
(1:27:28) Who is she disrespecting? Me. Who are you? I know where you’re going with this. You don’t really see that… (1:29:09) Lost in your muscles, why not practice being aware… No, that was a question …
(1:30:12) Just being intellectual… Knowledge about God is not knowing God. Prayer… Hard to stay still with things that don’t interest me. (1:31:38) That’s ‘cause you’re so angry and bitter and evil! Do you love being evil? If you didn’t love it, you’d let it go. “OK.”
5D Slave to your body, your god
(1:32:26) … Identity as a bodybuilder, a one-man sport… I made a business. That’s your god.
(1:34:52) Your body’s falling apart, you’re getting older… You’re not enslaved by your body? You’re a slave to your body. It rules over you. It is your god. (1:35:59) A slave to the physical…
No one can live with you. (1:36:42) You can’t even live with you. It’s given me structure. But you’re still out-of-control, Jesse says.
5E Why do you put up with this?
(1:37:14) So why do you live with this? I grew up in chaos with siblings… I found peace in his structure, regimen…. (1:38:25) If you step out-of-line you have hell to pay. You still don’t have peace, you’re still miserable.
(1:39:16) How are you helping him in his hell, with your fake love. He has no peace. You can’t bring peace to anyone. You don’t have peace. How are you going to give him something you don’t have? And you shake and cry at night.
(1:40:15) Peace is peace. It has no moments. It is. He could be working out and have perfect peace. You love your misery?
(1:41:05) It’s love? It’s not love!
5F Feedback on the couple
(1:41:20) Another gal similarly worked out a lot to escape…
(1:42:26) JLP: You guys hate each other… (1:42:51) Man … Do you see she’s not free? Her hell is freedom? Do you believe you can overcome your hell? Hell all around you…
(1:43:58) Woman: Do you think it’s possible? Extremely hard.
(1:44:55) Kat understands it.
(1:45:37) Crazy lady: Perfect peace, overcome hell… Kind of like Biblical Question… The men are looking for someone to rescue them! (1:46:54) Who’s gonna rescue me?
5G Love the hell
(1:47:21) I love the man he is to me, the gal says. How do you feel about her? You love the hell she brings to you? Yea, because it’s a good tradeoff. I don’t want to start over again…
(1:48:44) The young lady mother: Their eyes haven’t been opened yet… One trying to work on herself, the other not — the darkness hates the light. It’s hard.
(1:50:07) Man disagrees. I accept the light… it might be hard at first. (1:52:42) Why do you think you want to overcome? Consciously… easier said than done.
(1:54:13) You could drop the anger right now, and it’d be done. … Allow the light to destroy the anger, (1:55:15) by being aware. (1:56:24) I have to keep reminding myself to be aware, not to be angry. The light, God…
5H Helped?
(1:57:25) Colin: How have you been helped, since Day 1? I didn’t know all thoughts and feelings are lies. Helped me be more free.
(1:58:22) Hake on the couple… (2:00:02) You’re ok with your hell? (2:00:29) I don’t know any relationship in perfect peace. Man agrees on enabling…
(2:02:06) JLP: She could be free, but she loves the thrill of her hell and yours… Make up excuses… Men and women love the thrill of the fight…
6 You’ve been lied to: You worship your misery
(2:03:33) JLP: You’ve been lied to… “All human beings have this.” You don’t want to overcome. You’ve identified with evil. There’s no reason to be unhappy, lonely, angry, sad, depressed, suicidal, afraid… you do it because you love it. You’ve identified with evil, and worship your evil. When you look for love.. (2:05:37) Check out that girl or guy, so fine, I wonder if he has money!
“No one has peace.” (2:05:58) Excuses for evil! Worshiping the Devil…
(2:06:36) Christ brought light into the world. Silent Prayer …
(2:07:25) I talk to you one-on-one, and I find out you’re crazy! You have no business being miserable. You’ll have fun in life! You’re trying to keep up with your misery.
(2:09:08) The theme this coming year: Practice staying present.
(2:10:17) Your mind is your enemy. It will have you repeating what I say, but you’re still miserable.
(2:11:04) No such thing as you don’t hate your mama. You hate your mama! The men abused her because she abused them!
(2:11:50) You can have peace in dealing with the hell outside you. (2:12:33) I had a friend whose brother died yet he was a major bodybuilder!
(2:13:08) In closing, again: The theme is practice being present.
(2:13:56) Who will I be if I don’t have my anger?
(2:15:21) You can work on yourself — work on you, not him, not her…
Closing, announcements
(2:15:30) Announcements, closing
(2:17:04) Ladies… Best hospital in the world.
REMINDERS…
- 2024 theme: Want for nothing.
- 2024 assignment: This year, don’t let the thoughts bully you.
- 10/13/24 Daily Assignment: 24hrs: Don’t judge with words, looks, emotions, or thoughts.
- 8/25/24 Assignment: For one week, let the only evil you think of be your own.
- 8/25/24 try this: Never argue — with anyone.
- 9/1/24 Assignment: Completely surrender to thoughts. Feel it. Take the pain.
- 9/1/24 Assignment for Southern gal: For one week, don’t argue with anyone.
- 9-8-24 and 9-15-24 assignment: Don’t trust the thought. Let it overwhelm you.
- Late 2023 assignment: Notice the mind repeats itself, and that it’s all about self.
- Late 2023 assignment: Sit four minutes in your room in silence.
- March 10-17, 2024 assignment: Get rid of your heroes. Trust no one.
- May 19-26, 2024 assignment: If you feel anything, remember: It’s just a thought! No meaning.
- Jun 2-9, 2024 assignment/discussion: Watch the different demons inside you.
- Assignment from JLP show (Thu 6/20/24) Practice staying present.
- We’re not messing around this year.
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