18 Jul 07/18/21 Why Most Fall Away. Are Women Evil? (Church)
In Matthew 13, Jesus tells a parable of a sower, why most fall away, but the seed takes root in some. Take the pain. Are women evil?
Church with Jesse Lee Peterson, Sunday, July 18, 2021: After welcoming first-time visitors, we discuss women voting and being educated. Jesse talks about salvation, and that of yourself you can do nothing. James reads Matthew 13: 1-23. (Jesus tells a parable of a sower sowing seed on the wayside, on rock, among thorns, and on good soil.) A woman experienced a great challenge in her life that threw her off. Take the pain; God is destroying the ego. Are women evil? It’s important to let your yes be yes, and admit you’re wrong.
Jesse briefly answers last week’s Biblical Question: Jesus said: Unless one is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God. What does that mean?
New Biblical Question: In Genesis 3: 16, God told the woman: Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you. What does that mean?
Happy birthday, James Hake of The Hake Report!
- 0:00 Pre-church talk
- 0:56 Welcome to Church
- 6:28 Should women vote?
- 12:06 Educated women
- 14:21 Salvation
- 20:26 Women’s Forum
- 22:46 You can do nothing
- 24:57 Feedback: Can do?
- 32:00 Why people fall away
- 33:35 Matthew 13: 1-23
- 38:27 Satan seduces many
- 44:45 She was thrown off
- 48:48 Jesse took the pain
- 54:42 Women or Satan evil?
- 1:03:10 Born of the woman
- 1:09:31 Are women evil?
- 1:12:14 Why yes or no
- 1:14:54 More feedback on women
- 1:20:49 Men started wars!
- 1:22:40 Admit you’re wrong
- 1:29:17 Return to the father
- 1:32:12 It’s the spirit in you
- 1:32:38 Be careful what you hear
- 1:34:35 Bib Q: Born again?
- 1:35:33 New BQ: Husband rule
- 1:36:58 Seek the Kingdom
- 1:37:55 Men’s Conference
- 1:38:27 James b-day
- 1:40:20 Closing: Thank you
(We start streaming a couple of minutes after 11:00 AM US PDT.)
Jesse welcomes the first-time visitors. One young lady overreacted to her mother’s reaction when she went to forgive her. She’s married to an alpha male, she says. A man named Stone heard of us through his girlfriend Annie, who brought him to Church. Deborah also joins for the first time.
Women voting and women being educated
11:09 Our friend Said asked why women shouldn’t vote. He agrees, but a friend of his disagrees, he says. Jesse explains that women are emotional and make bad decisions — and in the old days when boys were boys and men were men, women weren’t allowed to vote. Some men disagree.
11:14 Jesse says we should never have allowed women to be educated. One young lady says college education makes women think they’re smarter than men, but they’re not. That’s the ego being built even more than usual. Another young lady says women are more easily influenced than men. And if they can get to the women by way of education, they can run things.
Another young man says that anyone who does not own land should not vote.
11:16 Jesse recounts driving down the road with the radio off, and appreciating the moment. He then talks about pondering why people fall away, after they’d seemed to understand the way to live. Recalling the moment of his salvation, Jesse talks about God changing his heart from hate to love, the Spirit taking away the anger. In 32 years that has not changed, but Jesse now has perfect peace. In life, you must endure, but God gives you the power to overcome issues. Many people take medication, because they have no peace.
11:22 Everyone has an evil heart; it’s the heart that needs to change. We had an amazing Women’s Forum this past Thursday night (third Thursday each month, most months, 7 PM at BOND in Los Angeles). Jesse noticed that the focus was on stupid stuff; “the guys ain’t no better.” They all complain about stupid stuff.
Of yourself you can do nothing
11:25 Over the years, Jesse’s known men and women who’ve come here, and seemed to get it. But down the road, they find another preacher, or fall back into the intellect. Once you’re born again, you no longer need anyone to point the way for you; but you grow naturally, just like a baby. Of ourself we know nothing. The intellect must go; we’re not in control of anything! Jesse was glad to hear we weren’t in control. It’s in the Bible: You can’t change yourself.
Jesse talks about talking with James, whose birthday it was yesterday; he’s older than dirt now.
11:27 Jesse asks: who knows that of yourself you can do nothing? One lady says she knows, but forgets; it’s a constant battle, letting go of the thoughts, being aware, and catching herself. Never, ever, ever, ever battle with thoughts. Be aware, and God will fight the battle for you; to even battle with it, says that you think you’re God. As soon as you realize that, the battle’s over, and you can let go and live.
If you get caught up in a thought, relax in it and feel the pain. You have to have a thought in order to feel pain, worry, fear. Don’t judge yourself.
11:29 Franky says he used to try to save everyone. He says that prayer is important for retaining faith; he fears stopping praying lest he fall away like he’s seen others do.
Another young lady asks a question. Jesse says that everyone who overcomes doubt, overcomes anger, you can’t help but have faith. You just live it — nothing else left but faith.
Why people fall away
James reads Matthew 13: 1-23 in which Jesus tells the parable of the sower. The sower sowed seed off the path, some on rock, some among thorns, and some on good ground.
1 The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.
2 And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:
5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
Jesse speaks more
Jesse then talks about when you see. You can’t renew your mind. God does it. Only a few people will wake up. But people go away because the seed did not take root on good ground. Don’t compare yourself to others; people could be lying.
11:46 Good is stronger than evil; evil has no power if you have no fear.
Unexpected challenge threw a woman off
One young lady recounts a year in which she was so happy after hearing Jesse for the first time. But then a few months ago, something bad happened, and she fell right back into it. She’s so lost, trying to find things; she’s even gone to a psychologist! — and she says it’s helping!
Jesse explains what to do in such an instance: Relax and do not judge it; there’s nothing you can’t overcome. Those things happen to wake you up; it doesn’t mean God doesn’t love you, or that you’re not with the Father. You believed a thought.
11:49 Jesse explains: Satan tries to draw you back in; relax, stay with the Silent Prayer, and allow yourself to go through it. You will see that God is with you. God is not judging you. God changes the heart. Feel the pain. Know that Satan is lying to you. Learn to deal with little things, so when big things come you’re ready.
Take the pain: Jesse had to too
Jesse says he didn’t know you just had to be still and take the pain, because the ego is dying. God is with you and destroying the not-you, the ego. The evil that made a home in you when you were a little kid. It’s not depression, but the anger in you. Jesse’s pain has gotten so bad he couldn’t move; he’d stretch out on the couch.
When he first started BOND, he’d give talks to the people. He’d leave the meeting, and Satan would tell him he didn’t know what he was talking about. He didn’t know the ego was dying. Sunday morning would come again, and he had no choice but to come back. These things need to happen so you see God is with you, so you can see your relationship with God. He’s causing you to overcome it, so you don’t hate others or yourself.
You can even ask Jesus to help you. Endure the pain, no matter what it is. It’s not your fault. It happened when you were a little girl. As an adult, you must overcome it by forgiving and returning to the father.
11:54 Psychologists are crazy! You have to be crazy to go to one. It’s a spiritual battle. Who are you that you shouldn’t be talked about, that you shouldn’t suffer! Jesus suffered, and he was perfect, and he was treated horribly. But we know we deserve it. Just relax, get up in the morning, do your prayer, go to work. If someone asks how you are, say to them: All is well. In reality, all is well. Plus: They can’t do anything about it anyway. They’ll just go gossip about you.
No matter what the situation is, don’t judge yourself.
Are women evil?
11:56 A lady asks about thoughts coming from Satan, but that women are evil too. Women are evil because Satan is their daddy. Once you admit it, your nature changes, but Satan comes in and tempts you. This lady says that Jesse does not make it clear every time that a woman is no longer evil if she’s born again. She keeps wanting it to be said that all humanity are evil, and not “just women.”
But Jesse says all who are born of the woman are evil, and so you must be born of God, and return to the father.
Is it true that all who are born of the woman are born into sin? She doesn’t like this distinction, that they’re born of the woman. So she starts talking about “men giving birth” and babies born in petri dishes or something.
12:07 Jesse asks the young lady: Why haven’t you called the show and asked to clarify? All those who are born of the woman are evil, and they must return to the father. What did your boyfriend say? Once a woman returns to God, she’s no longer in competition with a man; she’s happy to be a woman. Women are only in competition with men because the nature of Satan in them is jealous of the nature of God in the man. Once a woman is born of God, He’ll take the spirit of jealousy from the woman.
12:12 Is it true that women are evil? She keeps wanting to include men and women both as being evil. She then says “Before they come to God, yes.” Jesse tries to get people to say yes, so that they don’t feel better about being wrong by including others.
More feedback: Are all women evil? Admit you’re wrong.
12:17 One man thinks it’s just a semantics argument (Jesse asks: “Who’s Samantha?”). But it’s not. Another man says no, not all women are evil, because some are saved. Only after Jesse answers yes, all men are evil, does he agree that all women are evil. Jesse asks him why he thinks like a woman.
A few others chime in.
12:24 Jesse asks Stone: Are all women evil? You’re never going to get it right until you can admit you’re wrong. Why do you think the black community is not getting better? They’re not looking at themselves. Don’t let Satan trick you into Samantha! Watch out for the Devil; the Devil does not want you to admit you’re wrong.
One guy who says he’s illegal says that people take the things Jesse says personally. Another man says that a woman’s goal is often seduction and deceit. Yet another young woman points out that women are weaker, and therefore more likely to be evil.
12:32 A man asks if it’s wrong to say, “I’m a dollar waiting on a dime.”
12:34 Jesse explains to the ladies: It’s not you, but the spirit that made a home in you.
Let your seed grow
So Jesse encourages you: If you hear the truth but let it drop on dry land. Before it can grow, you let the children of Satan take it away from you. Be careful what you hear from other people. If they talk about one person, they’ll talk about you to others. Don’t let them steal your seed, even fellow people at church. Stay with the father. Satan wants every soul. Stay on your path. It’s better to be by yourself than with people who will steal your seed.
Allow your seed to grow; do the Silent Prayer. Be still; all things happen in stillness. It doesn’t happen in excitement, but stillness. God loves us. He’s with you. It’s God who allows you to see, and he will cause you to grow.
Jesus said: Unless one is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God. What does this mean? When you’re born again of God, you can see from within, with spiritual eyes — the light of God.
New Biblical Question: In Genesis 3:16, God said to the woman: Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you. What does that mean? One lady suggests a nice king. But a nice king is weak!
Happy Birthday, James! Yesterday, James Hake of The Hake Report turned 40!
Jesse gives some final comments. Thanks, all!
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