People read the Bible, but don’t live it! She’s afraid to give up the thrill of travel! Do you still cry? When you’re present, you’re spiritual.

Church with Jesse Lee Peterson, Sunday, September 7, 2025 

||  See clips, links, and notes below. 

TIMESTAMPS 

• (0:00:00) – 01 – Small talk: Women can just lie! Welcome… 
• (0:03:30) – 02 – Welcome back, Donyale, tripping after vacation trips 
• (0:07:04) – 03 – JLP: You read the Bible, but don’t follow! 
• (0:18:44) – 04 – Read the Bible. But don’t believe the Devil’s voice. Real vs fake heart… 
• (0:25:37) – 05 – “I’m nothing,” depressed? Traumatized to be something… 
• (0:31:20) – 06 – Catholic lady argues with her husband sometimes 
• (0:40:56) – 07 – Raymond, what has changed about you? 
• (0:45:50) – 08 – Do you still cry? Obey your husband? How to drop anger 
• (0:52:40) – 09 – Human beings love evil! Whole life, a lie! 
• (0:57:51) – 10 – BQ… Do I have to give up travel for God? 
• (1:08:38) – 11 – Hake, tripping and crying ladies 
• (1:17:09) – 12 – Unwilling to give up your thrills? No faith, no trust… 
• (1:20:21) – 13 – “Enjoying life to the fullest”? Who’s afraid? “Not me”? 
• (1:26:18) – 14 – Young ladies on Silent Prayer: Take it with you… BQ 
• (1:34:47) – 15 – JLP: Nothing about you is real. Satan owns your mind. 
• (1:42:27) – 16 – JLP on BQ: When you’re present, you’re spiritual. 
• (1:45:43) – 17 – Feedback, the crying ladies; Commit, Be free of the ego. 
• (1:54:38) – 18 – More feedback: Weeping; Real life; Mother-in-law’s “love”? Ego thrills 
• (2:01:14) – 19 – Closing, new BQ: Follower or leader?

CLIPS 

FOMO… She loves to travel — why let it go? (37-min) YouTube | Rumble

Nothing about you is real. Satan owns your mind. (11-min) YouTube | Rumble

You read the Bible, but don’t live what it says! (11-min) YouTube | Rumble

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CHURCH NOTES 9/7/25 

📖 OLD Biblical Question:  How do you know when you are spiritual?  

📖 NEW Biblical Question:  Are you a follower or a leader?  

01 – Small talk: Women can just lie! Welcome… 

(0:00:00) Start… women lying — talking with Mimi off-mic (0:02:28) Welcome … 

02 – Welcome back, Donyale, tripping after vacation trips 

(0:03:30) Donyale tripping 

03 – JLP: You read the Bible, but don’t obey! 

(0:07:04) World gone crazy. Human beings are mad people. Nothing but hell in them/the world Govt fighting like cats & dogs, nothing professional. They curse all day long. Yell. Falsely accuse. 

(0:08:20) All you thinking of marrying and having kids, don’t do it! Sorry, Family. Nothing but problems. 

(0:08:43) People read the Bible with no understanding. Check the concordance. Derrick (V LOUD): Exegete scripture, interpret scripture with scripture. Just insanity… Why don’t I do what the Bible says? 

(0:09:54) Examples… (0:12:20) Satan will give you a husband or wife, and then you fight. You can’t trick God! 

(0:12:40) Another example: Love one another. Nobody love nobody (nobody loves anybody)! (0:13:48) You’d rather hurt than feel nothing at all! 

(0:14:43) You don’t question, you make up excuses — like with Anger. Anyone with anger is a murderer. Now all the devils think they have righteous anger. THey can’t see it’s destroying them and everybody around them! If my anger is righteous, why am I destroying myself and others? 

(0:15:42) A doozy one: In order to have life, you must give up a life. You must die. Ain’t nobody dying! You’re holding on to dear life, like it’s real. 

(0:17:46) I love interviewing these preachers who went to Bible college, but they don’t have perfect peace! Why want a god who gives you the same hell you came out of? Like marrying 8 times over and over to the same man, all you catch is hell. 

04 – Read the Bible. But don’t believe the Devil’s voice about it. 

(0:18:44) A man asks … Read the Bible. Watch how the Devil interprets, don’t believe that voice. And understanding will come. 

(0:19:49) JLP used to go to Crenshaw Christian Center, and everybody read the Bible. I tried desperately to learn the Bible, but I could not remember it! It didn’t stick. 

(0:20:57) Adriana asks some questions… (0:22:34) Aren’t our hearts evil? Your fake heart is. Not your real heart. The heart you’ve been listening to is the fake one, the intellect, the imagination, the thoughts. The real heart, you will find as that one fades away. Like the ego. As long as you’re into thoughts and the imagination, your whole body is evil. (0:23:46) People quote: The flesh is weak. (0:24:57) Stop thinking … Dropped anger? Silent Prayer 

05 – “I’m nothing.” Traumatized to be something… 

(0:25:37) Mimi … (0:27:21) What’s the difference between saying, “I am nothing,” and being depressed? JLP says you’ve been traumatized to try to be something (0:28:03) JLP: The real you won’t try to be something. You shouldn’t think you’re nothing. (0:29:47) People… How do you think to say you’re nothing if you’re actually nothing and you know it? Mimi: It’s a thrill. Absolutely. No thrill, nothing about it. Hard to communicate that. (0:30:59) The Devil’s tricky. 

06 – Catholic lady argues with her husband sometimes 

(0:31:20) Understand why the Bible’s not working? Have you noticed the Bible didn’t work for you? (Before Raymond, the young lady…) (0:32:05) She’s catholic and goes to church. Hearing the passages nourish her enough. What good has it done to be Catholic? What do you mean “it nourishes me spiritually”? 

(0:32:59) Do you obey your husband? “Do I?” JLP: That means no. “Sometimes we argue…. Sometimes I don’t agree with his ideas.” JLP: Why not? He’s your husband. 

(0:34:44) JLP funnily asks why haven’t you asked why you don’t obey, being Catholic, catechism told her to obey… Uh-uh, that’s not practical! Don’t agree with God about that one! “Right…. That’s probably being human.” (0:36:01) Anger? “Oh yeah…” 

(0:37:00) Husband tell you to drop it? With anger, you have no love. You don’t even love your children! “I do.” How can you love them? Why do you try to control them? 

(0:39:09) Want to overcome evil? Forgive your mother. (0:40:02) Cora, welcome — her daughter was here last week. 

(0:40:18) Her daughter sees her as a loving mother, after the Silent Prayer — not angry at her. 

07 – Raymond, what has changed about you? 

(0:40:56) Raymond been working on himself all these years. What has changed about you? Why don’t you just drop it? Or have you? 

(0:42:04) Respond to that: Somehow or another, he falls short. A young man gives feedback: Try to stay present, not have any thought about it. Have a wait-and-see attitude, not feed into it. 

(0:43:19) Raymond, are the memories from you? “I’d like to say it is.” But it’s not from you. “Am I responsible for what I do in this life?” No, you’re not responsible. “Who is?” The Devil — not you. 

When I silently pray, I feel there’s a monster inside me yelling. (0:44:38) Something inside me feels like screaming, not used to being still. Evil demons inside your mind. Screaming because they don’t want you to be in the light. 

08 – Do you still cry? Do you obey your husband? How to drop anger. 

(0:45:50) Young lady (Bless), Do you still cry? … “I don’t know how to get out of this … this problem.” (0:46:50) JLP: You do know! Why did you have to cry alone? “A physical response. My body just cried.” Why don’t you pay attention to that… “Idk…” 

(0:48:10) Donyale was coming in-and-out 

(0:49:08) Young mother was distracted by her kids. Do you obey your husband? “I thought I did, but … this trip made me see I still don’t.” Afterward, I realize it. I’m thinking I’m doing the right thing. (0:50:20) Did you drop your anger? Did you forgive your mother? First-timer Nancy 

(0:50:45) Nancy on the depression or crying… She doesn’t understand how to drop anger. She doesn’t see it coming. 

(0:51:51) Young man on how to drop anger: Observe it. JLP: That’s all you do. 

09 – Human beings love evil! Whole life a lie! 

(0:52:40) How do you help the crybaby? The mother… “I cried” a couple of weeks ago. Did you know you were lying? “I don’t feel like I had a feeling attached to it. I felt tears coming… I didn’t feel emotionally attached to those tears.” As long as you don’t identify with it. “I’ve never cried without having fake feelings attached to it… It feels comforting” LOVE the Devil. 

(0:54:32) JLP: Human beings love evil and hate God. That’s why you wanna be desperate, depressed. ‘Cause you love evil! If you didn’t you’d drop it! JLP mocks: “I go to court for my children….” 

(0:55:54) The mother’s happy with the realization… JLP: Your whole life been a lie! Amazin’ huh? “Yes…. relearn everything.” Brainwashed by parents, church, experts, everybody! Taking medication you don’t need! 

10 – BQ / Travel and thrills are her god 

(0:57:51) Donyale on BQ … (0:59:34) Share what you’ve learned…? (1:00:43) How do I enjoy things? I still want to. Why don’t you want to let those things go? “Why should I?” Why don’t you want to let them go? “I could not travel and be here and be bored. … OK I get the whole boredom thing. But seriously.” 

(1:02:33) “I can tell he lives a five-star lifestyle.” Man doesn’t know; he has it worse than her. Maybe neck-and-neck. This is like asking Satan about God. 

(1:03:35) JLP: You can’t have both. He loves his travels, his fun. (1:04:32) She recalls Jesse talking about enjoying it in the right way… 

(1:05:13) Darren says it comes down to being present. You slipped out of the way you are. 

(1:06:07) Why does she have to give all that up? God ain’t all that! The Norwegian (or something) lady… (1:07:31) Are you spiritual? BQ-related question… How do you know? 

11 – Hake, tripping and crying ladies 

(1:08:38) Hake responds to the crying and tripping ladies … Awareness…  The rich young ruler… It’s her god. 

(1:10:30) Donyale doesn’t think it’s her god. (1:10:58) It’s not extravagant… The enemy convinces me… (1:12:34) Freaking out! Called-in to the radio show … Tripping out over father, in her head about family turning against her, because she’s 

(1:13:57) Mimi would cry at the blink of an eye… (1:15:34) God is more good … (1:16:25) Suggestion for the rich young ruler… Be still, slow down. 

(1:16:52) Donyale, and the other rich young ruler. 

12 – Are you willing to give up your thrills? 

(1:17:09) Are you willing to give up all your thrills? Why even waste your time and pretend you want something better? Colin, why keep showing up? 

(1:18:03) JLP: For all three (the crying girl and the two rich young rulers) — you know there’s more. The Devil’s having a fit. You think these are your desires and they’re not. There’s nothing more enjoyable than his ways. 

(1:19:25) Donyale watches her mother-in-law, can barely walk, a hermit — had an opportunity … “I have a fear [of missing out]” 

13 – Are you “enjoying life to the fullest”? 

(1:20:21) JLP: Are you “enjoying life to the fullest”? Donyale: “Yeah…” She’s afraid. Who’s afraid. “Not me,” but I don’t understand that. 

(1:25:16) Colin: Idk who I am… Why don’t you give up the thrills? You can’t have the thrill if you don’t have that going through your head? “So I can’t party?” JLP… said the rich young ruler. 

14 – More on Silent Prayer, taking it with you… BQ 

(1:26:18) The young lady did the Silent Prayer … She shows him things she sees — pictures on her phone. (1:27:43) Nice… 

(1:28:03) Are you spiritual? Man answers BQ-related question… (1:28:41) Man says if you’re looking for thrills, you don’t have joy. 

(1:28:54) Rochelle to Donyale… Did you take it with you? taking the Silent Prayer with you… every day is a vacation in the hood in South Central L.A. (1:30:17) Donyale … I was on other people’s schedule … (1:30:45) JLP: The whole world can be going on around you, and you pray 

(1:31:12) Young Norwegian lady: Can you know? You can know it. And have no questions… 

(1:31:59) Man on BQ: Are you spiritual? He also gives advice to Donyale… 

(1:33:22) Alexis still cries at night, inside… 

(1:33:57) Nick: Did I hear her ask why she did all this vacations… Donyale — I feel very reprimanded. … Don’t worry. 

15 – JLP: Nothing about you is real. Satan owns your mind. 

(1:34:47) JLP: What I want you to know. You are an illusion. Everything you think, how you see yourself, everything you do is an illusion. You’re not even real! Every feeling/emotion you get. Good, bad, party, forget about the prayer — all an illusion! 

God owns everything. But Satan owns your mind. (1:36:07) The real you… no troubles. 

(1:36:59) JLP: Christ said to live you must die. Die from false identities. Die from illusions. Thrills. The real you. Taking a trip and identifying with the trip, then you’re bored and need another trip. 

(1:39:10) Move to Georgia and get with a man! *gasp* 

(1:40:01) The rich young ruler didn’t know the greatest joy you can ever have is one with God. No words. Yes, you can know God. 

(1:42:00) The real you don’t feel pain. If you’re hurting, you’re wrong. Heaven is not earth. And God is not man. 

16 – JLP on BQ: When you’re present, you’re spiritual. 

(1:42:27) The way you know you’re spiritual, I almost don’t wanna tell you. When you’re present in the present, you’re spiritual. Worship him in Spirit and in Truth. 

(1:43:29) When you know God, you forget about God. When you don’t know Him, you think about “God” all the time. 

(1:44:10) Yes… You’re dying from an illusion! No such thing as friends, family… Don’t have to try to control them! “Don’t embarrass me!” No ownership! You can have a family without fighting! 

Everything is a gift from God! To move your body is a gift from God. It’s not yours. That’s why God lets you do what you want with your body. If you wanna kill the baby in the womb, go ahead! (1:45:35) He’s not gonna make you do … 

17 – Feedback from the crying ladies… You can be free 

(1:45:43) Donyale asking: How will I know…? JLP: You will know without question. 

(1:46:07) The crying lady… friend identifies as a witch: (1:46:27) Friend: Yeah, Bless, but that’s just ego. 

(1:47:56) Don’t do it, and that old part of him will die. And something greater will take the place. Be still and let it go. “He’ll come around in 50 years…” 

(1:48:27) Nick: The amount of which you can drop the world, does that come down to your level of commitment? JLP: When you commit to letting go? Right now, you can be totally free — but because you’re so attached to it, you think it’s you. Whenever it’s dying, you freak out, and find something to keep it alive. Let it be. You can be free right now. Snaps and clasps his hands… 

(1:50:20) The young mother and wife — why is the ego holding on? JLP: The ego is wicked, and lives in you (I think he said). The mind of the Devil owns you, and lives in you, and wants to hold onto you. If you don’t hold onto it, it has to leave you, and can’t stay there. Woman: being free… Should we struggle with it? JLP: No. See it, and do nothing about it. 

18 – More feedback: Weeping; Real life; Mother-in-law’s “love”? Ego thrills 

(1:54:38) Shayan: Weeping when you realize something: That’s not the same as woman crying, right? Don’t react to it… 

(1:55:41) Rene and Jesse: The fun you think you’re having is an illusion. It’s not real. That’s why you cry when you’re home and bored. 

(1:56:57) The Filipino father of the daughter with his wife brings up about forgiving her mother — “I loved her mother.” JLP: She was nice to you ‘cuz she was controlling you. She didn’t raise you! She didn’t like you! … You don’t find it in a book! (1:59:48) Everything 

(2:00:00) Doug on Donyale… Sounds like addiction. JLP: Ego thrills (2:00:47) He made this for us. But you’re living an illusion. 

19 – Closing, new BQ: Follower or leader? 

(2:01:14) In closing… (2:01:50) 📖 NEW Biblical Question:  Are you a follower or a leader? Feedback… 

REMINDERS / Assignments… 

1. 2025 theme/assignment: Practice being present. 
2. Don’t overreact to your anger this weekend (JLP show Fri 8/29/25) 
3. Be nothing for three days. And on the third day, see if you rise. (Fri, July 25, 2025) 
4. Communicate with few words. (June 29, 2025, didn’t mention) 
5. Don’t agree or disagree with anyone. And see what happens. (June 2025) 
6. Quietly live with the hell in you (May/June 2025) 
7. Write down all the stabs you get (May 11-18, 2025) 
8. Be a single-minded person, not a double-minded person. (BQ/Women’s Forum Apr 13-27, 2025) 
9. Don’t judge with words, looks/eyes, gestures, emotions, or thoughts. (Oct 2024) 

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