12 Oct The Absence of Darkness Is Light | Church 10/12/25
Can you control thoughts? Anger separates you from God. Pray for your enemy. The absence of evil is good: Your old nature is dark.
Church with Jesse Lee Peterson, Sunday, October 12, 2025
🗓️ Announcement: Women’s Forum third Thurs, Oct 16th, 2025, 7pm at BOND, L.A. https://rebuildingtheman.com/events/
|| See clips, links, and notes below.
TIMESTAMPS
(0:00:00) – 01 – Small talk, Welcome
(0:02:03) – 02 – Feelings… Can you control your thoughts? How do you walk in the Spirit?
(0:14:56) – 03 – You’ve never created your own thoughts. Can you direct your attention?
(0:28:48) – 04 – Be aware to bring thoughts into captivity. Anger: Business partners battle
(0:36:54) – 05 – Boundaries? Anger separates you from God.
(0:40:54) – 06 – Your son did not make you angry. You were already angry. Count it all joy… Family
(0:48:51) – 07 – When she’s crying, she’s lying. Face mama. Otherwise: “hag”
(0:55:30) – 08 – “Mama” rubbing her leg! She relates…
(0:57:21) – 09 – You must forgive. Satan wants you claiming you’re a sinner!
(1:03:04) – 10 – When’s the last time you prayed for your enemy?
(1:07:40) – 11 – Destroy and crush your enemies? Pray for them by wishing them well.
(1:10:32) – 12 – Biblical Question (BQ): Absence of darkness is light, absence of evil, good…
(1:14:19) – 13 – Little boy gets angry at his sister. Any boy who gets mad is a girl!
(1:16:19) – 14 – Back to BQ. Hake. Derrick the black producer. Anchor Baby.
(1:23:49) – 15 – JLP on BQ: Taught wrong. Put Christ first. Satan is Judas in your head.
(1:39:12) – 16 – Feedback: The absence of your old nature. Peace is not a happy feeling.
(1:45:03) – 17 – Raymond. Think about living. Present with God. Demons tremble, not you.
(1:53:43) – 18 – Stop helping others. Being the light? Evangelism? “One of us is lost.” Let it go.
(1:59:37) – 19 – How Jesse sees Charlie Kirk? Trump? “I’m just Jesse.”
(2:09:52) – 20 – Jesse’s thoughts on Mormonism?
(2:11:46) – 21 – New BQ: Which do you prefer: being good or doing good?
(2:14:27) – 22 – Closing, Announcements: Women’s Forum
CLIPS
Your old nature is dark: the real Christ story
Your Old Nature is DARK: The REAL Christ Story (18-min) YouTube | Rumble
Tell your sister, BACK OFF! But don’t be mad.
A boy who gets mad is a GIRL (Short/Reel) YouTube | TikTok | IG | FB | on X
See Recent and Archive clips on BOND YouTube, BitChute, Rumble, Odysee — BOND: Rebuilding the Man
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CHURCH NOTES 10/12/25
📖 PRIOR Biblical Question: The absence of darkness is light. The absence of evil is good. What does that mean?
📖 NEW Biblical Question: Which do you prefer: being good or doing good?
🗓️ Announcement: Women’s Forum third Thurs, Oct 16th, 2025, 7pm at BOND, L.A. https://rebuildingtheman.com/events/
01 – Small talk, Welcome
(0:00:00) Start… (0:01:20) Welcome
02 – Feelings… Can you control your thoughts? How do you walk in the Spirit?
(0:02:03) Shayan (sp) asks if it’s good that he still sees and feels hell in him. He thought he’d matured.
(0:04:23) JLP: We never create our own thoughts / (0:04:45) JLP jokes about everybody look at the young lady coming up front.
(0:05:03) A second man on a mentor: Keeping your thoughts captive — analogy. He asks about controlling.
(0:05:41) Colin was in his head, not paying attention. Another guy not paying attention.
(0:06:32) JLP: Everyone come here. Take a deep breath, and be here.
(0:07:13) Back to the second man with the question. (0:08:31) Can’t control, but can control from going off-track. He’s at a Tony Robbins conference here. (0:09:04) JLP: Did you already pay for the conference? Get your money back! His business partner loves Jesse. (0:09:22) I’m not convinced I can’t control my thoughts(?) — (Note: Hake apparently can’t pay good attention either!) JLP: Can you control your thoughts? (0:10:28) I am, in that I’m thinking about what we’re discussing. … “Yes and no.”
(0:11:20) Meditate on the Word? “Our Father” — the Lord’s Prayer. …
(0:12:50) JLP: BTW: I did work on my eyes. Harpo did not beat me.
(0:13:59) How do you walk in the Holy Spirit?
03 – You’ve never created your own thoughts. Can you direct your attention?
(0:14:56) It’s OK to be wrong. That’s why you’re at Tony Robbins’ event. … JLP: You’ve never created a thought at all. (0:15:46) Thoughts? I don’t understand. It feels desempowering? But encouraging when you have impure thoughts. You don’t have to beat yourself up.
(0:16:42) Colin: I agree. Pornography all day. You can direct your attention. (0:17:12) JLP: How come men always use pornography as an example? … Focus on a picture of Jesus…
(0:18:46) JLP: But your mind will drift!
(0:19:24) Young lady agrees — the Norwegian(?) young lady. (0:20:36) I’ll sit here and think about 20 different things.
(0:21:01) Disagree about attention? Shayan. Lustful thoughts. (0:21:16) JLP: Why men always lusting? Final boss…
(0:22:17) Third Man: We can’t control the creation of the thoughts.
(0:23:20) Second man: Do you believe you create your thoughts? … Creativity is a strength God gave me? Never create bad thoughts? You like bad thoughts?
(0:24:44) JLP: You like suicidal thoughts? Never contemplated suicide at all? Gratefully no. Keep on livin’. Depressive thoughts. What’s the difference between sinful thoughts and self-destructive thoughts?
(0:25:47) Yet another man: Anger can make you feel good. Loving the thrill of anger. Forgave father? Still gets angry, feels good.
(0:27:19) Franky… Not my will, but His.
(0:28:14) Man: Things you don’t put in your head… Not looking at Charlie
04 – Be aware to bring thoughts into captivity. Business partners battle
(0:28:48) JLP: Be aware of the thoughts. That’s how you bring them into captivity.
(0:30:10) [skip] The Word is a double-edged sword, the man says. He thinks we have volition, ability to choose. … [funny]: He’s educated, so Jesse doesn’t understand.
(0:32:03) He’s not ready to concede that he can’t control thoughts. He says he has both righteous and sinful anger.
(0:33:40) Doug (?) is his business partner. Too intellectual for me. God is very simple. JLP: His friend likes dealing with bullies. You can do that without anger. (0:34:49) We both have anger. You telling on your friend?!
(0:36:05) JLP: Anyone with anger is a murderer. Never trust a person with anger. The man thinks there’s righteous anger.
05 – Boundaries? Anger separates you from God.
(0:36:54) A young lady: You can have boundaries without anger. You don’t have to be weak. A line drawn between anger and boundaries. What is a boundary? For example: I’m not comfortable with you talking to me that way. (0:38:01) JLP: But if you didn’t have the spirit of anger… People with anger are weak.
(0:38:23) Q for JLP: I never get angry. I don’t think to get angry. Thank God. You can’t have anger and know God.
(0:40:02) JLP: Taught all your life that you need anger “a human emotion” to protect yourself. It’s evil, and it separates you from God.
06 – Your son did not make you angry. You were already angry. Count it all joy…
(0:40:54) A young father on “the anger situation”… My son made me upset.
(0:42:57) JLP: Your son did not make you angry. You were already angry. Your mama made you angry. Can’t blame him for that at all. When it happens again… Be glad. “Count it all joy…”
(0:44:04) JLP: My son would curse me out. He would call me nigga… (0:45:34) JLP: Parents are supposed to be the light.
(0:46:44) It’s not happening to you. It’s happening to the Ego, the false self.
(0:47:00) Why do you resent your father so much? Son speaks: I wanted to get angry, but didn’t show it. He’s never done nothing wrong to me. I forgave my mother, but not verbally. He’s 16. Never had the chance to see her. Can’t find her anymore. Don’t hold it against her. Dating? No. Good, don’t.
07 – When she’s crying, she’s lying. Face mama. Otherwise… “Hag”
(0:48:51) Young lady: A lot deeper with my mom. Her voice seems to quiver. Don’t think I’ll be able to say it. Why are you crying? A lot of feelings haven’t been able to let go of. Why not? Being the oldest, she dealt with the abandonment more. She’s 19 today.
(0:51:12) JLP: When she’s crying, she’s lying. … She wants to compose herself first and then forgive her. It doesn’t work that way. You gotta face her in your fears, and all anger will disappear. It doesn’t work the other way around. Face her. Grow up and be an old hag, otherwise. Notice women with anger are hags? Perfect age to drop anger. Face her while you’re angry.
(0:53:54) She’s far away. Realize she feels the same way as you with the hell inside you.
(0:54:32) JLP: Forget about that “abandoned pain” – that’s worldly. You’re not abandoned. God is with you. In the good old days, the kids went with the Father, not the Mother — the mothers didn’t have sense, crazy.
08 – “Mama” rubbing her leg! She relates…
(0:55:30) “Mama” rubbing her leg — but mama is her boyfriend or husband!
(0:56:40) Similarly she was the oldest child. I was kind of identifying with her perhaps. Praying for her. Empathetic.
09 – You must forgive. You’re not a sinner. Satan wants you
(0:57:21) JLP: Every human being… forgive your mothers. (0:59:05) The separation between you and Christ are thoughts and emotions…. Let go and live. Satan talking you out of it. Those thoughts are not your own. Satan prefers you whoop and holler and pray, “I have sinned!” — than to be still and know God.
(1:00:19) Did you say, “I’m a sinner”? I said I have a “sin nature.” Tell Tony I said hi. You’re not a sinner. Off-mic: Praise God, so I’m saved now. Was Christ lying? Why call yourself a sinner.
(1:01:23) “Jesus’s righteous indignation in the temple—” Forget about all that! “OK.” He was not emotional. He did not feel what you feel at all. You hold onto it because you’re already weak. Why you saying “yeah” so fast? It makes sense. Like with the father earlier. It’s a favor the son did him.
10 – When’s the last time you prayed for your enemy?
(1:03:04) When’s the last time you prayed for your enemy? Woman: I don’t remember. Another young lady in the back with the glasses — “Mimi”: My mom, when she was alive, a long time ago. Can your mother be your enemy? All mothers are enemies, and they can’t help it. Why haven’t you prayed for your enemies?
(1:05:06) Young lady: I just don’t think about them enough to pray for them. Let Jesus know.
(1:05:28) Third woman, with an interesting subtle accent: On the drive here. One saved soul.
(1:05:55) Christian: A day ago, thinking of this in his youth.
(1:06:16) Man: Prayer list.
(1:06:45) Lady in front: Every day… (1:07:07) Jim: Last week, a couple coworkers, angry woman, angry dude. Wish them well. Try to stay present.
11 – Destroy and crush your enemies? Pray for them by wishing them well.
(1:07:40) JLP: One of the best things you can do for yourself: Pray for your enemy; don’t hate your enemy.
(1:08:08) Man: Never. Wanna destroy my enemies. The best way to destroy them is to pray for them. How do you destroy them? Your business would grow in ways you’d never imagine. Focused on crushing them. Real estate and finance.
(1:09:41) How do you forgive your enemies? Colin asks. Just wish them well.
(1:10:02) I thought you can’t pray for people. You pray for them by wishing them well. Let God’s will be done for them.
12 – Biblical Question: Absence of darkness…
(1:10:32) Doozy Biblical Question. Jim in Alaska. What is it? The absence of darkness is light. The absence of evil is good. What does that mean?
(1:11:54) Mimi on BQ
(1:12:33) Anchor Baby
(1:13:09) Man switched the BQ…
13 – Little boy gets angry at his sister. Any boy who gets mad is a girl!
(1:14:19) Boy gets angry sometimes. Because they be mean to me. Seven. My brother(?) and my sister. (1:15:01) Boys not supposed to be mad. Any boy who gets mad is a girl. Learn to speak up, say, Hey, back off, but don’t be angry. Speak up. I know how sisters like to nag. Right? Mm-hmm. Hey, sis, back off! Let me know how that goes. Ricardo. Ricky!
14 – Back to BQ. Hake. Derrick the black producer. Anchor Baby.
(1:16:19) Back to BQ with Delores (sp)… (1:18:23) … Hake
(1:19:06) I have a black producer. Wanna pray for me? Put me on your prayer list. Derrick…
(1:20:35) Anchor Baby. (1:21:12) Another young man.
(1:21:54) My rice friend. Oooh! Completely controlled by God.
(1:22:32) Raymond.
(1:23:17) Colin: The truth is light. All we have to do is let go. (1:23:32) Franky.
15 – JLP on BQ
(1:23:49) JLP on BQ: I wish we were never taught anything. Taught away from God, away from common sense. We suffer, have to relearn. When you read the Bible without trying to understand it. Be aware of Satan interpreting the Bible for you. When you read it with insight: Christ taught amazing things, how to live a perfect, peaceful life.
(1:25:01) I hate Jews because they killed Jesus. Dummy.
(1:25:15) When you read without trying to understand, it’s all about having a perfect life. Pray for your enemies. Nobody pray for their enemies.
(1:26:40) Put me first, Christ said. But you love everything but him. You pretend, but think about getting married, having a family… Thinking about Satan, self, Satan. You and the Devil are one. (1:27:33) Seek the truth first, and everything will be added.
… (Hake missed part of this monologue)
(1:33:47) Judas sold Jesus out. Satan is Judas in your head.
(1:35:46) Christ conquered death. That one act gave all of us eternal life. It set us free. We’re no longer sinners. Nor saints. Not free nor slaves. Nothing we think we are. Die from the ego, the false you — the illusion you must die. The world gives you a chance to die, but you won’t take it! (1:37:11) You’re not your thoughts, emotions.
(1:37:51) When you die from the anger of the heart, the Light will destroy your evil, dark, wicked human nature.
16 – Feedback: The absence of your old nature.
(1:39:12) JLP: The absence of your old nature is Light. The Light will destroy it. Any Q’s? Disagreement? Make sense?
(1:40:01) Christ died from illusions. Christ didn’t die. Your ego self is not real. Anger, fear — young lady, it’s not happening to you, but your false self.
(1:40:43) Feedback: Shayan (sp) — JLP: When you can see it, and do nothing about it. When something happens — just come back to present. Don’t forget to be present.
(1:42:03) Norwegian lady, a woman at a concert insulted what she was wearing. She wasn’t bothered, but her friend was. Should I be angry? (1:42:59) JLP: The hell in other people will try to keep you in hell with them. They won’t know you’re free. She feels numb to the world…? Peace is not a happy feeling. Stay with it.
(1:44:32) In Christ, there is no thinking. In Satan, there’s nothing but thinking, and emotion. Satan is a passionate God. “I’m so passionate” means “I’m so evil.”
17 – Raymond. Think about living. Present with God. Demons tremble, not you.
(1:45:03) Raymond: Seeing how stupid I am. (1:45:49) JLP: You don’t see how stupid you are. You don’t exist. Don’t call yourself anything. There is no you to be stupid or dumb. All born in sin. Born in sin, born to crazy families. Our parents make us this way when we become angry at them. (1:47:37) Raymond: On the road in Silent Prayer (1:48:03) Have no impression about self at all.
(1:48:23) Man on people working on their physical self. When we die, where do we go? JLP: Think about living. Let death take care of itself. You don’t wanna drop your body with anger. In hell here on earth. LGBTQ, blacks and whites fighting. A father tried to kill his 5yo son, for his money! Evil. Hell on earth. Wars. Human nature is evil. (1:50:14) He asks more… One with the truth. Present.
(1:51:08) Mimi: There is no you. Present. You and God are one.
(1:52:02) Young lady: Facing hell inside, not as scary anymore? Satan’s demons are afraid — it trembles. Not you.
(1:53:08) Christian to Raymond: those images come from the Devil. JLP: If there’s no you, how can you be stupid? You’re stupid for thinking your stupid.
18 – Stop helping others. Being the light? Evangelism? Charlie Kirk? Trump?
(1:53:43) The Christian businessman: Wired to be a blessing (?) (Hake didn’t quite catch it.) Q… (1:55:15) JLP: Stop helping others. — The man interrupts, “Be a light here in the world.” If you think you’re being the light, you’re being the darkness. Right now there is no light in you. What’s the benefit of coming to terms with that? You’ll let go so the light will take over and shine through you. There’s no thinking about the Light. You have only hurt by thinking you helped them.
(1:57:48) Evangelism? Lost. Ego trip. The Great Commission. Calling. You’re using Christian terms. You’re lost, in your head. One of us lost, that’s for sure! Passionate about this.
19 – Charlie Kirk? Trump? “I’m just Jesse.”
(1:59:37) The business partner asks: How JLP sees Charlie Kirk? Don’t really know him at all. Seemed like — but I don’t know. Looked like he was preaching the Bible. Now everybody wanna be Charlie Kirk. They’re taking on another false identity. God gave you you. You can never be somebody else. Don’t have an opinion. Dunno. Or Trump?
(2:01:13) Trump is definitely walking by the Light. … All this stuff going on now is not the Light…
(2:02:32) The business partner follows-up, saying Jesse’s helped. (Charlie Kirk and Trump made an impact, he was saying earlier.) (2:03:38) JLP: “I’m just Jesse.” It doesn’t even occur to me to take credit for anything.
(2:06:19) On Bible thumpers quoting the Bible, going into the concordance… (2:06:39) … He agrees, it’s very emotional, about Charlie Kirk. “I am Charlie” shirts. Nothing to do with God. (2:08:04) Help your friend!
(2:08:16) Evangelists. You speak from experience, and not from Scripture, says Jim in Alaska’s wife. The truth is supposed to wake you up.
20 – Jesse’s thoughts on Mormonism?
(2:09:52) Last word: Mormonism? Lot of white babies. Other than that, they’re lost. … They’re so indoctrinated, the young man says — he grew up in it. Don’t judge them.
21 – New BQ: Which do you prefer: being good or doing good?
(2:11:46) New BQ: Which do you prefer: being good or doing good? … Man likes to do both. You can’t do both! “I prefer you ask somebody else.”
(2:13:55) Be doers of the word.
22 – Closing, Announcements: Women’s Forum
(2:14:27) Closing, announcements…
REMINDERS / Assignments…
- 2025 theme/assignment: Practice being present.
- Never think about yourself again. (for 1 wk/mo, BQ/Women’s Forum Sep 18-21, 2025)
- Don’t overreact to your anger this weekend (JLP show Fri 8/29/25)
- Be nothing for three days. And on the third day, see if you rise. (Fri, July 25, 2025)
- Communicate with few words. (June 29, 2025, didn’t mention)
- Don’t agree or disagree with anyone. And see what happens. (June 2025)
- Quietly live with the hell in you (May/June 2025)
- Write down all the stabs you get (May 11-18, 2025)
- Be a single-minded person, not a double-minded person. (BQ/Women’s Forum Apr 13-27, 2025)
- Don’t judge with words, looks/eyes, gestures, emotions, or thoughts. (Oct 2024)
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